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#14 Re: coilovers
sssute Posted on: 2006/9/25 14:04
Also on the r31 struts the thread has to be welded flush with the top of the strut, even with the adjustment you can only wind the spring seat down to the point just above the tyre. Some people think that your hight is fully adjustable. Spring length and pressure is the main factor.


#13 Re: coilovers
boofhead Posted on: 2006/9/25 11:27
as to where the coil section is welded on will primarily be decided by the size of tyre wheel combo you run, on mine - the middle pic - the threaded section is welded up under the weld line you can see in the pic. this sets the spring seat at the lowest part of the thread without hitting the tyre. spring lengths generally come in 25mm incriments starting at 200mm upto 300mm by some makers. you can help set the height of the car with the length of the spring and use a tender spring to keep the main spring captive when on full droop.
sssute's running 175lb springs with a CA from memory the standard spring is around 115lb in a stanza setup. spring weight, number of coils, progressive or lineal wind also make a big difference to travel.
from what i've found from talking to different suspension people often it's a bit of trial and error to get it exactly how you want at the height you want ...


#12 Re: coilovers
Daveman Posted on: 2006/9/25 5:34
I've been thinking about this a bit too since ordering a pair.

The way I have calculated it is:

You need the corner weight of the car (roughly), you then need to measure from the centre of your tyre to the lower control arm bush in the engine crossmember and also measure from the bottom of the strut to the same bush. Do a sum of moments about the bush in the crossmember to find the load on the strut.
Divide that load by your spring rate to find spring deflection.

Once you have the spring deflection it's just a matter of taking that off the unloaded spring length and doing some measuring of the total strut lenght etc to work out how high it will sit at rest. You would presumably try to make it so the desired point is in the middle of the threaded sleeve allowing for adjustment to either side of it.

You could work backwards as well by deciding how high you want it to be and choosing a spring rate that won't allow the suspension to bottom out.


The problem with the stanza struts I'm finding is that to go nice and low, you don't get much suspension travel which means you need to run a really heavy spring rate!




#11 Re: coilovers
Mildman Posted on: 2006/9/25 4:55
Is there a guideline for how high up the strut to weld on the threaded sleeves?


#10 Re: coilovers
sssute Posted on: 2006/9/24 13:09
Cheers guys for the plugs. Dat5 welding them on is very simple, if your interested i can do it for you, as im in adelaide too. Springs can be a bit of trial and era, but not to hard to get right. I have a CA18DET in a ute and im using 175 pound Kings with a free hight of about 225mm. Good ride hight(LOW), reasonably firm, Could be a bit stiffer for track use, but for road use great.
Scott


#9 Re: coilovers
dat5_al Posted on: 2006/9/24 12:36
yeh cheers its all making sense now. so stanza struts, with king springs on these coilover setup up seems alright for a ute runnin a CA turbs with street asperations only


#8 Re: coilovers
boofhead Posted on: 2006/9/24 12:25
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these are what sssutes are, pretty much all coilover kits will come out looking similar ...

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these are a pedders setup i'm in the middle of (wouldn't advise this route unless you're prepared to do alot of messin about )
standard stanza strut body on the left, shortened coilover on the right ...
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and these are a datrats set. all the datrats stuff is top notch as well


#7 Re: coilovers
dat5_al Posted on: 2006/9/24 12:19
cheers fellas


#6 Re: coilovers
dattodude Posted on: 2006/9/24 12:10
king springs, or any spring place. They are a 'standard' diameter, as used in a lot of coilover kit.



#5 Re: coilovers
dat5_al Posted on: 2006/9/24 12:04
yeh my talents with a welder still a lil scratchy so yeh. were do i get springs form then



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