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#13
Re: What can go wrong in an oil pump?
B210sleeper
Posted on: 2007/1/13 0:35
more bad oil pump pics...
wow! found more bad stuff!! the snout of the pump had a crack in it too! Also the drive gear is slightly longer than the other one, even with the broken part of the shaft taken off, the pump is still very tight, the pump chamger and top have 0 clearance still... there were some very bad things going on here!
#12
Re: What can go wrong in an oil pump?
B210sleeper
Posted on: 2007/1/8 21:14
it was 'rebuilt' of something... I don't have a trace for where this pump came from, i suspect it was one from ebay, or possibly from partsamerica.com. - but probably ebay...
I think i possibly gave the mechanic a bad pump... but isn't it a nice failure. my engine has less than 10,000 miles on it too, but not going to be covered, i care less about placing blaime than gettign it fxed and not having any other fun...
#11
Re: What can go wrong in an oil pump?
jaimecidpedro
Posted on: 2007/1/8 20:41
It could had been a poorly rebuilt oil pump. Some rebuilders are just scammers.
Did you install that pump?? or was it in your engine beforehand?? I will look at the pixes later....back to work...
#10
Re: What can go wrong in an oil pump? - PLENTY
B210sleeper
Posted on: 2007/1/8 20:20
on the mating surface it's part of the gasket - yes it a very poor pump.
all the color on the metal is from heat.
#9
Re: What can go wrong in an oil pump? - PLENTY
kululadotgroen
Posted on: 2007/1/8 20:09
Having had a look at your pics, here follows my not so pro opinion.
That looks like a pretty kak oil pump...kak means sh!t, but worse... No seriously, the last pic shows some rust on the mating surface, and it might be that some of this got into the pump. The shaft might also be rusted where it goes through the housing, which is causing the tough turning. Maybe this pump simply didn't get enough lube/wax when it was assembled, and rusted while in transit or on the shelf???
#7
Re: What can go wrong in an oil pump?
B210sleeper
Posted on: 2007/1/6 16:43
i've been wondering, is this why cold starts were so hard even with a under drive starter... first start of the day was always unusually hard but then once warm it was easy.
it's very weird how the gear has 0 clearance at the top and bottom of the pump. Honestly i can't remember if the pump felt excessively tight when i got it, i'd tend to say it was harder to turn than the current 'good' spare pump. the casting for the pump is really messy, but only on the inside where it matters. the outside looks fine. I've always used aftermarket parts and never had anything this odd happen before. my first question is, is there some sort of magic way that the gear inside the pump got larger? if not, then the shaft and gear were too tight in the first place, that being the case, the 'play' there should have been would be taken up by pressing the gear right against the top of the pump housing, which it must have been doing for the gear top to be blue from heat. The oil didn't "fail" per se, the gear top got so hot from having too little clearance, did I just get lucky and it died, or did switching to a radically different oil cause a failure that was coming? this oil thing worries me... was switching oils a fluke? ***the gear did seize to the top of the pump, the part the gear rotates in was scuffed, but not blue or seized.*** that seems interesting, also, the galley that feeds oil to the pump shaft was already tiny, but this casting has all kinds of cast in crap around the little inlet, the metal debris from the pump gear rubbing the bottom of the pump chamber would likely go straight to the shaft bearing... so how's that for weird, the gear seized, inside the pump to the top, that broke the cam gear, which should have sheared the roll pin, but didn't and even taken apart the pump is hard to turn, so the lack of clearance wasn't the only problem with the pump, because if it were just clearance it would turn easily once apart, but something else is wrong too...
#6
Re: What can go wrong in an oil pump?
Dodgeman
Posted on: 2007/1/6 6:43
All A series oil pumps are interchangeable.
The iron pump, as you rightly assert. is a 'replacemet' type, but they are not inherently inferior. What caused your failure? I don't know, but I look forward to seeing some pictures.
#5
Re: What can go wrong in an oil pump?
mikeys_toy
Posted on: 2007/1/6 6:04
are they any different?
#4
Re: What can go wrong in an oil pump?
Keithdot
Posted on: 2007/1/6 3:12
I have new original oil pumps from a14 crate motors...... oops, just noticed your is a a15, sorry
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