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#13 Re: rollcage and harness questions
L18_B110 Posted on: 2007/7/9 1:02
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nuts wrote:
yeah a bit hard in the ute!harnesses are better off bolted onto rollcage,eg behind the seat on harness bar.as for the coupes having the top straps bolted to floor isnt a real good option being the angle to great hense the risk of seat breaking in an event of a crash.harness in your car should at least have an adr stamp on it or if racing, needs to be FIA approved cheers



Agree that the best place to mount a harness is a horizontal "taxi" bar in the main hoop of a cage - it keeps the length of the webbing to a minimum and can be positioned at the correct hieght. But you are better off looping the harness around the bar than using bolts - its one less potential failure point.

FIA 3" harnesses have a 5yr lifespan on the webbing from the date on the tag for any motorsport use, and are not legal for use on Australian roads.

harness don't need to be FIA standard for club level racing. Australian Standard (or European E2) 2"harnesses are also fine for racing, and are not bound by the 5yr lifespan on the webbing. These are the only type of harness that can legally be used on the road in Australia, and even then there are alot of other rules to consider.

There is also a cheaper type of 3" harness that's legal for racing - I think its SFI standard? but its only valid for 2 years from the date on the tag.

always check the dates on the tags when buying FIA or SFI harnesses to ensure you get maximum use out of your belts.

And if buying a belt for motoraport use, the rotary release buckle is the best - they can be released when you're hanging upside down in a rolled car. the normal buckle style won't release if there is tension on it.


#12 Re: rollcage and harness questions
B210sleeper Posted on: 2007/7/8 18:48
yes you can get replacement 30 year old technology, and use crappy 30 year old seats, but I need something that holds me in place. and the OEM stuff just can't do that.

Sometimes I get stopped for not having a strap from the B pillar, but as the officer walks up he sees I'm strapped in plenty good and they go about their business.


#11 Re: rollcage and harness questions
nuts Posted on: 2007/7/8 11:02
i think you are right there tyrie,i dont think ive ever seen a harness in a datto ute,i have in utes with rear parcel shelf!yes and road authorities dont like roll cages much either.so a bit of studying up first before installing..


#10 Re: rollcage and harness questions
phunkdoktaspok Posted on: 2007/7/8 10:58
If supercheap can have them, Im sure every autoparts store in Australia can supply replacement seatbelts.


#9 Re: rollcage and harness questions
Tyrie Posted on: 2007/7/8 10:51
I think in all states of Australia (please correct me if I'm wrong) only half cages can be engineered and a front half, if there, must be bolt-in and not to be used on the road. I would think the cabin of a ute would all classify as "front half" in which a cage cant be engineered.

As said harnesses would most likely have to come from a cage mounted in the tray (rollbar).


#8 Re: rollcage and harness questions
nuts Posted on: 2007/7/8 10:41
yeah a bit hard in the ute!harnesses are better off bolted onto rollcage,eg behind the seat on harness bar.as for the coupes having the top straps bolted to floor isnt a real good option being the angle to great hense the risk of seat breaking in an event of a crash.harness in your car should at least have an adr stamp on it or if racing, needs to be FIA approved cheers

Another reason for harnesses is they are easy to come by when you need to replace 30 year old setbelts, 3 point retractor style. but in any case you loose the back seat, like anyone can fit back there...


#7 Re: rollcage and harness questions
B210sleeper Posted on: 2007/7/7 19:32
Another reason for harnesses is they are easy to come by when you need to replace 30 year old setbelts, 3 point retractor style. but in any case you loose the back seat, like anyone can fit back there...


#6 Re: rollcage and harness questions
PIGDOG Posted on: 2007/7/7 11:35
and for a harness in a ute you would have to make a hole in the rear window wouldnt you?


#5 Re: rollcage and harness questions
converted Posted on: 2007/7/7 8:17
Bond roll bars can do a very neat Cams and road approved roll cage for your ute... Yes the harnesses would still need to be engineered.


#4 Re: rollcage and harness questions
datspeed Posted on: 2007/7/7 8:14
converted,
into a 1200 UTE and im from victoria.



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