id still use avgas im sorry

Quote:Your point??
As far as I can tell, this is an ongoing project. He has been identifying problems & finding solutions to each one in turn. If a running car can be successfully engineered, I presume that one will be forthcoming when all of the issues are successfully addressed.

It would seem that, like fuel injection, electronics may hold the key to finally succeeding with a suplementary system, ..... perhaps.
I'll just watch & hopefully learn.

the video I posted from youtube had the car running.

yeah but all these videos and not one car running on it.....

mitch there are some vids on you tube of guys making hho with a sola pannel the size of a pack of smokes
and when you go to jump start someone you hook up the leads you hear the motor load up coz of the drain , when we turn on the hho cell on theres no change in how the car runs so i put this hole takes more nrg to make stuff in the bs pile but in saying that we tryed other designs of just making hho and we had jumper leads about to melt and no manny hho bubbles

1000 coupe the vac line is above the water so it sucks the gas coming off the water

and we use a 20amp fuse on the hillman
the water stays at room temt or a lil above

a good movie at the shops is who killed the electric car on a side note :)

Quote:If the HHO is being used to suplement the petrol/gasoline then large volumes would not be required.
If the engine was to actually run exclusively on the stuff, then that could be a different story.

There are currently 127 youtube clips from this one man that are worth a look through. Newest ones first. Pick a few & check them out. His test methods are worthwhile overall but the clips, like me, are a bit long winded.
Patience here may well be rewarded.

back to the actual system perthute is running..
I dont want to sound like Im knocking the system so far, Im keeping an open mind..

I think chris was getting at what I suspected all along might be happening that is modest gains in economy and power might partly be water injection at work improving compression and cylinder filling etc.

Its hard to see in the u-tube vid but I want to know if the vacuum line in the jar is ABOVE the water or IMMERSED.

If 12V and around 90 amp is actually enough to release a usable flow of hydrogen, why is it commonly believed that a lot of electricity is required?
Maybe that is just a popular myth like electric cars being slow that puts off development for now.

I would have to agree with Mitch_photog. The difficultly seems to be in separating the H2O into hydrogen and oxygen at a fast enough rate to satisfy the engine. All of the info I've researched indicates a significant amount of electricity to separate water and still takes time to produce only marginal amounts(compared to electricity used).
Sure you could store a quantity of pure hydrogen but that sounds to be the wrong way to go in the event of collision.
I'm not saying it's not possible, but I don't think we are quite there yet.

All of the following is taken from various sections of the ABC Science website. Sorry to just copy and past slabs of text, but I think its all relevant...

The story so far
Running a car on hydrogen and oxygen is viable, however with current technology it takes more energy to split the water back into hydrogen and oxygen than the useful energy you get out. Fine if you have huge banks of solar photovoltaic cells, and lots of water, but it does involve significant capital costs. Also, storing the hydrogen and oxygen is complex and/or expensive.

Used in West Oz
Hydrogen cars are used in various parts of the world. In West Australia they are trialling buses with big hydrogen tanks. One of the problems is that you need the infrastructure in place, such as hydrogen fuelling stations, or technology to convert hydrogen from the air.

New Development
Researchers have split water into hydrogen and oxygen by replicating how plants use photosynthesis to make carbohydrates. The team of Australian and US researchers says their findings, could lead to a cheap and easy way of making hydrogen, which many experts believe is the green fuel of the future.

There is a heap more on there if anyone has the time to read it all...

That sort of kills a dream i've had for hydrogen powered race cars. I was imagining the safety aspect of only having to fill up you car with water anywhere around the track\ pits\ bush which could result in the refueling areas being utilized for something else