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#10 Re: New epa rules
ddgonzal Posted on: 2013/8/19 17:49
In California they passed a junker/clunker law to get extreme polluting cars off the road. Then they used billboards with a B210 on it to illustrate -- even though B210s were exempt from the legislation!

No need to panic.


#9 Re: New epa rules
Posted on: 2013/8/19 14:44
Dont laugh ange they have been testing a noise and emmissions camera off and on on Kingsway for last 5 years or so.


#8 Re: New epa rules
ANGE Posted on: 2013/8/19 14:33
doesnt sound like anything new to me, loud and smokey cars have always been considered unroadworthy.

there'll be nobody around to police this anyway like everything else
unless they start to install 'safety' smoke cameras and sound meters!


#7 Re: New epa rules
D Posted on: 2013/8/19 13:59
smoke "a continuous period of 10 or more seconds" fine by me I cant stand mistubishi or mazda drivers smoking all over the place. Also the Malaka pustis making too much noise especially weekend bikies with brand new jeans, brand new harley leather jackets thinking they belong to some special club. They get stuck in traffic and rev their aftermarket louder chinese made pipes cause their momma never gave them enough attention and now they sport a flavour savour on their greasy gob for that kfc or maccas drive through. On rainy days their a kitted up black Hilux uselessly take up space in Melbourne inner suburb streets. This country is an embarrassment to tourists who think its full of try hard noisey and smelly morons. Slap morons with fines bring it on.


#6 Re: New epa rules
boofhead Posted on: 2013/8/19 9:02
scare mongering and money grabbing ....

this country is really becoming an embarrassment.

between all the taxes and ludicrous things that you can be fined/charged for i often wonder how hard it would be to 'disappear' ... become self sufficient and non reliant on commercially produced goods ? solar power, water tanks, septic waste, a good vege patch, work or barter for goods or services ...

wonder how long before we get charged for breathing the air ? or fined for polluting it with cigarette smoke ?


/end rant


#5 Re: New epa rules
Posted on: 2013/8/19 8:45
Im not overly cocerned. Just means air boxes and pcv valves. Not much emmissions for l or a series cars.
Carbon canisters etc won't do much anyway. This is a rubbish law as a fair few stockish large capacity cars will also fail in almost stock form for noise and emissions.

Heard a massarati or m3 or fpv or hsv lately....
Most coomodores and falcons and magnas get a bit smokey too.


#4 Re: New epa rules
trb012 Posted on: 2013/8/19 7:08
Yeah im not worried just thought it was an interesting read


#3 Re: New epa rules
ddgonzal Posted on: 2013/8/19 5:50
This pending regulation is not a problem.

Quote:
cars would be banned from pumping out exhaust smoke for "a continuous period of 10 or more seconds", and that their noise would be no more than five decibels above the level "established for the vehicle when it is certified".

no one takes pride in driving an oil smoking car, and it's plain embarrasing to have an out-of-tune unburned petrol smoking car. Self-respecting owners would want to get these cars in shape.

And since your modified car is certified, as long as the exhaust system doesn't have a hole in it, it should meet the certification loudness reqs for years.


#2 Re: New epa rules
bobby_sr20 Posted on: 2013/8/19 5:45
Fuk its getting beyond a joke in this country


#1 New epa rules
trb012 Posted on: 2013/8/19 5:12
Drivers face $1000 bill to fix up clunkers
• by: Michelle Ainsworth
• From: Herald Sun
• August 18, 2013 11:00PM

TENS of thousands of motorists will have to pay about $1000 each to have old bombs and hotted-up cars repaired under tough new emissions and noise controls.
Drivers who refuse to fix their cars would be fined and repeat offenders would face having their registration suspended.
The new regulations, expected to be introduced in December, are detailed in a report by the state's Environment Protection Authority into the effects of vehicle air and noise emissions limits.
The report says that in the first year about 8100 motorists would be expected to be caught for pumping out too much pollution, or being too loud.
If those motorists want to keep driving their cars, the EPA estimates that repairs and testing fees would be about $1261 each.
Over the next decade, the report says almost 81,000 cars are likely to break the regulations, with the average costs of repairs and testing over that period being about $1000 a vehicle.
New limits mean that most cars would be banned from pumping out exhaust smoke for "a continuous period of 10 or more seconds", and that their noise would be no more than five decibels above the level "established for the vehicle when it is certified".
"The beneficiaries of the regulations are the Victorian environment and the wider Victorian community, with reduced emissions leading to improved overall health and amenity outcomes," the report says.
The net value to the community was estimated at $249.3 million over 10 years, while the cost to motorists would be $56 million over the same period.
RACV public policy manager Brian Negus questioned the accuracy of the figures supplied by the EPA.
"My initial response is that we need to be very careful in looking at their stated benefits - they seem to be very high," Mr Negus said.
"We would support remaking the current regulations ... but as to extending it to some of the areas where there are huge costs involved, there needs to be very careful consideration of that."
Environment Minister Ryan Smith's spokesman James Martin said the updated regulations were aimed at excessively smoky or noisy vehicles.
"These are normally associated with poorly maintained clunkers, or hotted-up cars that contribute to poor air quality, exacerbate health issues or result in sleep disturbance," Mr Martin said.
The EPA report says new regulations would enable easier detection of polluting vehicles as the "EPA anticipates using remote sensing to increase the ability of detecting high-emitting vehicles".
It also expected restrictions on petrol vapour emissions at service stations would cost the industry more than $100 million in the next 10 years, a cost likely to be passed to motorists.
The report says emissions limits would be a better tool than mandatory testing, which would have seen 25,000 light commercial vehicle drivers forced to get special services, costing about $437 a year.

michelle.ainsworth@news.com.au







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