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#1 Who has fresh water aquarium with fish AND real plants.I need advice please
1200GXman Posted on: 2009/9/2 14:32
Hi all. I just need someone to give me advice. These pet shops and people here are lazy buggers and use plastic plants. I want to make a more realistic aquarium but as this is my first attempt at this field I need advice. I have gone through the internet with lots of info but just need to ask some advice to people with hands on experience. Thanks.


#2 Re: Who has fresh water aquarium with fish AND real plants.I need advice please
LAGWAGON Posted on: 2009/9/2 22:53
what do you want to know?...


#3 Re: Who has fresh water aquarium with fish AND real plants.I need advice please
racetech Posted on: 2009/9/3 9:28
I have been playing with fresh water tropical fish tanks for more than 10years.

What info are you looking for?


#4 Re: Who has fresh water aquarium with fish AND real plants.I need advice please
1200GXman Posted on: 2009/9/4 9:19
Thanks, now I can ask my detailed questions.
1. What sand can I use? I am planning to use real plants in the tank. A friend here at work said he has a full bag of unused swimming pool filter sand. You know, those silicone (I think) sand that they use in that big tank thingy to filter/backwash etc the water.
Will this be ok?

Plants. What food do they need? Do I have to use real mud or can I just put them in the normal swimming pool sand that I want to use. I can get at the local petshop a bottle of water plant food drops for aquariums that you put a few drops of in on a monthly basis.

I am still in the planning phase before I start to buy stuff and put it through a cycle and then adding fish.
It is actually the little guy's Christmas present but my wife and I are more excited and enthusiastic about it.
It is going to be +- 20 to 25 liters thank. Not big because I live in a town house and don't really have space for one of those big suckers.


#5 Re: Who has fresh water aquarium with fish AND real plants.I need advice please
bailz Posted on: 2009/9/4 10:29
do yourself a favour, i have been into tanks for years, save some cash and go marine! its so much better....

i spent more on my tank in the last year than what my datto is worth


#6 Re: Who has fresh water aquarium with fish AND real plants.I need advice please
racetech Posted on: 2009/9/4 13:49
lol.

Gx i will stay away from filter sand, that stuff was made to block. I prefer to use river sand. Not that fine but still nice and does a good job of sucking the the crap in and not keep it on top of the sand.

Lets start at filtration in that small tank, what are you looking at? I like a under gravel filter, good for plants.
Then instead of a air pump in it for circulation, i use power head (Water pump)that sucks water up thru the under gravel filter pipe.

If it is a big ass tank a external canister filter is a good addition to the above mentioned setup.

Then you will need to look at decent lighting for plant growth, in a small tank this is were the #OOPS# hits the fan.

I would love a CO2 setup for plant growth, but i do not see this in my current setup.

In my experience it is the best to remove the plants from there containers and plant them directly into the gravel, with the under gravel filter there roots will grow underneath it.


#7 Re: Who has fresh water aquarium with fish AND real plants.I need advice please
racetech Posted on: 2009/9/4 13:52
bailz, i do agree with go marine, but crap a decent setup is expensive and life stock in SA is very rare and not cheap, you okes are so lucky, you have the freakin barrier reef next to you.

Personally i would kill any kid that touches a marine tank with dirty hands or nock it to get the fish moving.

In SA a nice tropical tank is just the best and easiest.


#8 Re: Who has fresh water aquarium with fish AND real plants.I need advice please
1200GXman Posted on: 2009/9/7 11:15
I agree with racetech. We can only go tropical if you want a decent fish tank. Marine is VERY expensive, especially here where I live because I am inland.

I did quite allot of research and found that the under gravel filters no one recommends. Especially when going planted. So I am going filter that sticks to the side of the tank.

It is for a start a 8 gallon (30 liter) tank.


#9 Re: Who has fresh water aquarium with fish AND real plants.I need advice please
bailz Posted on: 2009/9/7 13:42
go with a cannister filter if you can with a built in Uv steriliser, saves alot of bacterial diseases.

just keep it pretty clean and you wont need any other filters,,

try get a few bits of limestone too cause they work as natural filters


#10 Re: Who has fresh water aquarium with fish AND real plants.I need advice please
1200GXman Posted on: 2009/9/7 14:36
Thanks for the tips.
Limestone won't be a problem. Here where I live it is limestone country. Will it not affect the water w.r.t Ph or something else?



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