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#1 removing windscreens
Lobster Posted on: 2004/2/2 3:39
Can I do it myself, with help?

O should I try to get someone to come in and remove them?


#2 Re: removing windscreens
dattodude Posted on: 2004/2/2 3:49
Easy..depending on how professionally it was installed/repaired over its life.

The hardest part is removing the stainless trims without bending them, or stretching them out of shape. This involves putting WD40 on the seals where the stainless is, letting it soak in, and using a small screwdriver to loosen the dirt/silicon used to hold the trim to the rubber, while carefully extracting the trim off the rubber.

To remove the windscreen, I generally carefully run a straightblade screwdriver between the window and the rubber on both sides of the window. This loosens up the glass/rubber bond from silicon, and "UV damaged rubber" from sticking to the glass.

Then I get in the car and using running shoes (soft bottomed) I sit in the seat, push it as far forward on the rails and them place my feet on the windscreen and push it out. If the seal is old, there's a good chance it will split.

Having a spare seal is a great idea. Then you can remove it like professionals, where they run a sharp knife around the window rubber and cut it out so the window can be easily popped out. When dealing with glass and pressure, always use as much surface area as possible when pushing it in or out.

Never lever the glass out with a scewdriver...NEVER!!! You will have nightmares of the vision and sound of the windsceen shattering in slow motion...

The other problem is getting the window back in if the seal has hardened. The use of the 4mm nylon rope is the go, but the rubbers need to be able to accomodate the string plus the thickness of the glass during the operation.

Chris


#3 Re: removing windscreens
Buff Posted on: 2004/2/2 3:51
Hey Lobster,
If its the old non laminated one then get rid of it and have someone come and install a new one.

In fact even if its a new one I'd get the pro's in to remove it. At $200 Approx for a new one if you bust it - its not worth the drama.



#4 Re: removing windscreens
RockOn Posted on: 2004/2/2 4:33
Lobster,

dattodude is right. I removed both front & back windscreens a few weeks ago. The back one properly: by running a screw driver around the edge, then pushing from the inside gently. The front one however I got impatient with and after running the screwdriver around it tried to lever it out. No Good!

Oh well, at least I have a spare.

Also new rubber is best way to go.

RockOn


#5 Re: removing windscreens
1200coupe Posted on: 2004/2/2 5:46
Hey Lobster,
If you accidently trash the rear screen I have a couple of spare ones stored behind my shed. I'm in Canberra too.

If you want to get someone to do it for you, ring Steve from "all suberbs windscreens". His prices are good and he does a good job plus he's into rallycars.



#6 Re: removing windscreens
Lobster Posted on: 2004/2/2 6:46
I think I may give him a call then...

I have some spare rear quarter windows if you ever need those...

Such a sharing and caring community...
EDit: anyone know how much new rubbers cost? (No msart arsed answers please )


#7 Re: removing windscreens
1200coupe Posted on: 2004/2/2 6:59
I will PM you tomorrow with his number. Thanks for the offer of rear quarter windows but hopefully I wont need them this season unless of course I put the car on its roof in the forrest somewhere


#8 Re: removing windscreens
RockOn Posted on: 2004/2/2 7:31
Lobster,

Call American Auto Spares on 029 746 1188 in NSW.
Part no. 72610-H1800 Front screen Seal 1200 coupe. $ 82.80
Part no. 79710-H1800 Rear screen seal 1200 coupe. $85.50

These are for the coupe, don't know if they fit the other body styles. Maybe not cheapest either, but see how ya go.


#9 Re: removing windscreens
phunkdoktaspok Posted on: 2004/2/2 7:52
I don't mean to dog you Dattodude, I would do everything you describe with the exceptions of;
I wouldnt remove the stainless trim as there is no need, and since Lobsters already started the body work I wouldnt use WD40 or anything like it, this is because it will soak into the primer real good and will make the final paint coats have a pretty effect in it. Plus its a pain in the arse to completely clean off.
If you need to soften the rubber or lubricate it I would use plain old soapy water like the tyre shop uses or even window cleaner like you will notice the widow man uses.
Lobster one thing I dont know if you care about is that the new rubbers cant have the stainless trim added. Front screen might be the exception if its the same as the utes.


#10 Re: removing windscreens
dattodude Posted on: 2004/2/2 8:47
Fair enough about the WD40 quote. I use it for just about everything.

What about the corner bits though? They link together, and I'd think they might bend if you don't remove them. Surely the window wouldn't come out? If you say they do, I guess I'll have to believe you. I don't have the factory manual with me, so I don't know what the factory recommends either..

Cheers,
Chris



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