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#1 different diff ratio?
aidaniel Posted on: 2008/9/8 7:55
are there any other ratios avaliable for the datsun 1200 utes other than the 4.11? looking for something closer to a 3.5 or 3.6 for highway driving


#2 Re: different diff ratio?
PIGDOG Posted on: 2008/9/8 7:58
can get 3.7 from 4 speed series 1or 2 bluebirds


#3 Re: different diff ratio?
Dodgeman Posted on: 2008/9/8 8:10
Quote:

PIGDOG wrote:
can get 3.7 from 4 speed series 1or 2 bluebirds
4 speed Sedans only, 4 speed wagons used the H190 diff in 3,9 to 1 ratio.
Using rear tyres with diameters equal to, or greater than the 574mm of the original 600x12 cross ply will also be an asset.


#4 Re: different diff ratio?
aidaniel Posted on: 2008/9/8 13:36
do these bolt up in the same housings? im running a 15" 195/50 wheel so it has a larger circumference than the original 12" 155/80.


#5 Re: different diff ratio?
Dodgeman Posted on: 2008/9/8 14:02
All H165 differentials will fit into all H165 rear axle housings. The 1200 ute has a H165 & so does the series 1 & 2 Bluebird.

The 155R12 was not the original tyre size but was in fact the the radial 'option' & at 554mm diameter it's 20mm smaller than the original 600x12 tyre which was 574mm.

The 195/50/15 is 556mm in diameter, just 2mm larger than the stock 'original' 12" tyre size.


#6 Re: different diff ratio?
beattie Posted on: 2008/9/8 14:06
Yes they all bolt in but not all axles are the same. Unless ive pulled a brain fart the old P411 bluebirds ran a H165 with a different axle spline to any other H165.

Also isnt there some sort of a mod(spacers) to adapt a H165 centre into a H145 or is that a 1200 thing due to axle size?


#7 Re: different diff ratio?
aidaniel Posted on: 2008/9/8 14:20
the 195/50/15 is accually a 576mm diameter tyre so it is running at approx the same size as the original cross ply tyre


#8 Re: different diff ratio?
Dodgeman Posted on: 2008/9/8 19:09
Quote:

beattie wrote:
Yes they all bolt in but not all axles are the same. Unless ive pulled a brain fart the old P411 bluebirds ran a H165 with a different axle spline to any other H165.

Also isnt there some sort of a mod(spacers) to adapt a H165 centre into a H145 or is that a 1200 thing due to axle size?
Actually you are absolutely right about the early, alloy carrier H165's. I must have had a senior moment & forgotten.

The H150 differential shares the mounting gasket with the H145, so it will fit into the h145 housing, however there seems to be a misalignment problem with the centerline of the differential, so a 2mm spacer & a second gasket [one each side of the spacer] should fix that little problem & a wider range of ratios then become available to the 1200 owner.


#9 Re: different diff ratio?
Dodgeman Posted on: 2008/9/9 2:16
Quote:

aidaniel wrote:
the 195/50/15 is accually a 576mm diameter tyre so it is running at approx the same size as the original cross ply tyre
Yep.

If you had gone to a 205/50/15 on the rear only, they would measure out at 586mm diameter. The slightly wider tread loooks just that little bit more tough from the rear & the extra 10mm of diameter translates to roughly 30mm more traveled distance every time the wheel goes round.

I run 185/60/13's on the front of my 1200 coupe [552mm] & 205/60/13 on the rear [576mm] That way it steers well with no body rub anywhere & the tyres cost less, while the rears fill the wheel arch nicely & maximise my gearing. The big 'n' little look apeals to me & I get a little 'rubber rake' into the bargain which gives it a little bit of attitude.

I have not run the same size tyres front & rear for about 30 years.


#10 Re: different diff ratio?
PIGDOG Posted on: 2008/9/9 3:16
pretty sure all the 195/50/15s i have have stood the same height as the 155 12 on most stock rims



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