just want to know, ive got an a series 63 dogleg 5 speed in my race coupe, and ive just picked up a 63 series normal pattern 5 speed out of a stanza with the l series front, and i just want to know can i swap the dogleg a series front bellhousing part onto the standard pattern 5 speed so that i have a standard pattern box in the end?
anybody done this?
cheers kurt

pretty sure you cant ddgonzal or dman would probably be able to give more details but from memory you cant as somethings are different
and why do you want a normal pattern do you want to get rid of the 5 speed?? pm me if you do

anybody tryed swapping the selctor setup out of them then?
if not i got my self a good set of spare gears lol

i though some folk tried the a series auto belhouling onto the L series gear boxes... bit of mucking around but do able

Im pretty sure they are the same box with different bellhousing. As you need the larger clutch when doing the swap.

thats what i was thinking sean, the box is setup in the coupe already im just toying with the idea of a regular shift patern, instead of the dogleg.
well it works in my head so ill give it a shot over the christmas break. the dogleg box needs a rebuild anyway

Woodie, I dont think there was a 63A 5 speed that wasn't a dogleg box. All the normal boxes were the 71a's, with 71 mm's between the shafts. Are you sure this isn't a normal 4 speed with worn shifters so it'll slip into the 5 position & there wasn't anything there, like some 56a 4 speeds. Even the 63a 5 speed in the 200B coupe was a dogleg box. Check the case for the number on the side, or whether the output shaft will turn when you put the shifter into the 5th position. & if you want to go to a normal shift pattern, my racing partner has a normal pattern 5 speed 60a, maybe he'll be open to a swap. We'll be pit crewing at the Australian championships, so maybe we could have a chat then. Paul.

The L series gearbox's can't be used on an A series. The L series input spigot is of the larger diameter that the O.D. of the A series spigot bush. I used an L series 63A to replenish my fully fisted 63A A series box. I had to get a machinest (Dad ) to turn down the spigot bush journal to the same diameter as the a series one. As well as cut it down by about 15mm. (Approx)
The really tricky part is that there's nothing to hold it by. The only bit that could be held in a lathe chuck is the taper upon which the synchro blocker ring runs on. He had to machine a female taper to wedge the input shaft into to hold it. It was pretty tricky. I would have just used my old one, but it was a bit ratty. I stil have to old one. It's pretty handy for getting the clutch plate lined up perfectly.

The 63A 'A' series bell housing is unique to the A series and it is the same box as the 63A 'L' series. It is just a different bell housing. Do you have a 63 behind your A series now? If so, same same.

yeah thats what i have been trying to say rev head. i have a 63 series 5 speed(dogleg pattern) a series box in the car at the moment, and i have a normal pattern (selects all 5 forward gears and has the 5 speed gearknob) in a stanza down the back.
if the spigots are different sizes, cant i just change the input shafts over? as well as the a series front housing onto the stanza normal h pattern rear housing and gears.
my basic reconing is to just swap the front housings over, ill do it over christmas and do some stuffing round and rebuilding and report on what i find.
paul ill whip the stanza box out before the hillclimb and do some measuring im sure its a 63 not a 71, because its too small to be a 71
thanks everybody for your help