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SR20VE versus 3SGE
D
Posted on: 2018/10/11 10:15
Just a comparo but missing information if anyone can fill in the gaps?
Its interesting as the 3Sge is very plentiful in comparison to the VE SR20VE 207PS 205 PS / 152 kW @ 7200 rpm 152 lbs ft / 206 nm @ 5200 Capacity 1,998 cc (2.0 L) Bore x Stroke 86 mm x 86 mm Variable Performance Mechanism Dual VVL? Compression Ratio XX.? Valve Material Steel-Alloy: ? Intake Valve Diameter 30 mm Exhaust Valve Diameter 34 mm Included Valve Angle ?° Conrod length: 136.3mm Weight: later versions more hp had 70 mm throttle body (earlier 60 mm) Block Height: 211.3mm Crankshaft journal diameter: 55.0mm Crankpin diameter: 48.0mm Versus 3S-GE gen 5 210PS 207hp / 154 kW @ 7,600 rpm 22.0 kg⋅m (216 N⋅m) at 6,400 rpm. Gen 5 Capacity 1,998 cc (2.0 L) Bore x Stroke 86 mm (3.39 in) x 86 mm Variable Performance Mechanism Dual VVT-i Compression Ratio 11.5:1 Conrod length 137.8mm Valve Material Steel-Alloy: Titanium Intake Valve Diameter 35 mm Exhaust Valve Diameter 29.5 mm Included Valve Angle 22.5 ° Weight: The 3S-GELU was143 kg (315 lb) fully dressed (later Gen5 was lighter again) Throttle body or bodies sizes no idea?
#2
Re: SR20VE versus 3SGE
nickmitty
Posted on: 2018/10/11 15:30
My brother runs a Altezza gen 5 Beams motor in his Gallant .
#3
Re: SR20VE versus 3SGE
ddgonzal
Posted on: 2018/10/12 0:38
Nissan QR25DE More hp at lower RPMs than the BEAMS so you don't have to rev it up all the time
200hp / 149 kW @ 6,600 rpm 216 N⋅m at 5,200 rpm Capacity 2,488 cc (2.5 L) Bore x Stroke 89 mm x 100 mm Variable Performance Mechanism NEO VVL Compression Ratio 10.5:1 Conrod length 143mm Valve Material Steel-Alloy: ? Intake Valve Diameter 35.6 mm Exhaust Valve Diameter 30.5 mm Included Valve Angle ? Weight: QR25DE 150 kg (330 lb), within a few kg of the BEAMS
#4
Re: SR20VE versus 3SGE
D
Posted on: 2018/10/12 4:43
Nick that is a fine looking Galant, I had one with an Saturn
1.6 with webers and pipes but struggle to crack 90hp atw. Id love a GTO coupe with 6 bike carbed Debonair Saturn 6 It is basically an LY L6 just reversed in/ex. with 95kw stock more hp than 1977 bmw first sohc M20 L6. https://minkara.carview.co.jp/image.as ... 00e01.jpg?ct=358d4ec8222f https://66.media.tumblr.com/3ae93b34dd ... 6x96zesw1u8imavo1_640.jpg I should have put purely 2ltr comparo of high revs DD the late QR25 is a fine motor but its vs Toyota 2.5 and 2.7 donks which are fine things and also can make 190hp and more torque than the QR and thats only Toyota FE engine not the GE sports versions which they didnt release but its the preferred engine for all kinds of racing and won 2015 drifting world title vs mostly $$$$ v8 turbo engines Now papadakkis was asked by toyota to build the 2018 corolla. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw0Vkgasa70 The Beams seems to be easy for rwd as they are already rwd in the lexus and altessa.
#5
Re: SR20VE versus 3SGE
nickmitty
Posted on: 2018/10/12 11:02
Yeah the Galant started with a fresh Evo motor with Yamaha head but had a few issues with it , so he went for the Beams . He did infact look at a SR. The Beams had a double clutch but he went back to single . Came out OK finished and now has moved to another project.
#6
Re: SR20VE versus 3SGE
Mattndew76
Posted on: 2018/10/12 14:51
The QR is really inexpensive to pick up.
Local pallet motor QR25DE is $550.00 USD
#7
Re: SR20VE versus 3SGE
D
Posted on: 2018/10/15 2:12
Nick is that Galant in Soufrika? also I understand why the Beams its
an easy beast to setup already rwd and here in japan I can get it for around 400usd engine alone but why didnt he go 4g63? hp too low NA? QR engine is also very ugly but someone like you Matt could dress one up for the retro ocassion although quite a challenge, its very angular. QR is lighter @ 121 kg 267 lbs and shorter length yet my tiny TVR AJP v8 using Al Meling`s F1 architecture and weight has double the hp / torque sits lower in the bay, looks beautiful and has bugger all wiring. On a good note for those after an A series 5 speed or QR rwd 5 speed I found this by fluke which is the best budget option surpassing any other custom gearbox conversion for any engine out there even for an A series. These guys do any custom bellhousing cut/shut cheaply to a munchie so Chevy T5 must be used for compatibility and quote insert below from HAMB rodding site also states the chev t5 has longer input shaft that must be trimmed but prob what A series needs if going T5 http://www.mazworx.com/store/p/318-Bellhousing-Modification.aspx Quote: Hey all, I have been running a Saginaw 4 speed behind my Flathead using an Offenhauser adaptor. The transmission has blown and I am wanting to replace it with an S10 T5. Can someone please confirm that the T5 front bolt pattern is the same as the Saginaw/Muncie/t10 and will bolt to thisvbellhousing? As I am in Australia, and we didn't get this version of the T5 , I will have to import one. Thanks Adam ADAM F, NOV 15, 2013 SHARE POST#1 scrap metal 48 Member from Dayton,Ohio Yes it's the same but you have to drill the mounting holes to 1/2" and shorten the input collar and trim the input shaft.. I have pics of this if you search my threads... Never seen anyone do this quality for this price on a bellhousing cut and shut Mazworx would have save the custom scene many headaches years ago compared to now where old cars are just much harder to find and modify due to their values. Well at least the option is there for a T5 A series bellhousing, Take note Rallytwit! :) Even for those after an RB conversion for their big hp SR the T5 option is a bargain.
#8
Re: SR20VE versus 3SGE
nickmitty
Posted on: 2018/10/15 4:05
D. my brother is a Hemi / Chrysler nut in QLD. Bout every 2 yrs he finishes a project. Colts Gallants Sigmas and the more exotic like original Pacers, E38s upto E49s and E55,s. He did do a Viper V10 in a ute too. The Beams was the 1st time he strayed . He has a mate that imports front cuts from Japan and motors from USA.
#9
Re: SR20VE versus 3SGE
ddgonzal
Posted on: 2018/10/15 11:02
Nissan QR engine has RWD gearboxes, no need for an adapter
#10
Re: SR20VE versus 3SGE
D
Posted on: 2018/10/16 6:19
Frontier box is a giant boat anchor doesnt suit old datsun lightweight philosophy
420hp 360lbs tq tvr v8 with t5 box weighs 90-100lbs less than a qr with a frontier 6 speed that extra 6 gear wont pull it any harder in a lightweight datsun You can view topic.
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