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Installing an A14 & 5 Speed.
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Hi all,

In the next few weeks I'm going to take out my current A12 and 4 speed to put in an A14 and 5 speed box that I've managed to track down through an old mate. I've been going through the tech section but I just want to confirm two things before I start...

Question 1) Drivesharft.
If I put both A14 and 5 speed in I know that I'm going to have to move both engine and gearbox mounts back roughly 2 inches - But will I have to have any modifications made to the drivesharft or universal joint done at all?

Question 2) Clutch
This is a weird question, but the guy supplying me with the box thinks that the 5 speed he has is hydraulic, not cable operated. I thought that they were all cable operated??? Is he just confused or is it me?

Any help with these questions is most appreciated!

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Matt.

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Re: Installing an A14 & 5 Speed.
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Hi on the box does the clutch fork have a hook ? if so its a cable clutch.

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Hi oan878,

Not too sure - I've seen the engine and box but that was a while back, they are located on a farm this guy has a few hours out of Sydney and he's not 100% sure himself...

I guess I just thought that they were all cable operated. I have not been able to find anything in the tech section to say otherwise.

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Have a look at ANY underhood shot of a LHD 1200 & you will see two master cylinders. One is obviuously for the clutch.

The five speed was not available in Australian models, so they are all imported from various countries. If this gearbox has a hydraulic clutch, then it has come from a country where the hydraulic clutch was used.
All Australian models had cable clutches.

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Thanks for clearing that up for me Dats-hot.

So has anyone got an answer for my other question about the drive shaft?

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The driveshaft is the same. The A14 & A12 are same length, as is the 4-speed and 5-speeds 56 or 60 series.

If you are getting a 63 series transmission there may be differences, especially with the clutch disk splines.

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if it's a 63a box,just get the front yoke from a stanza & put it onto the tailshaft.if you're moving the engine & gearbox back 2 inches,you'll have to shorten the tailshaft by that amount.the answer to hydraulic or cable clutch is with the 56 & 60 gearboxes,if right hand drive it's cable,if left hand drive it's hydraulic.with the 63a's it's all hydraulic.so where the gearbox came from defines how the clutch is operated.

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Thanks for all of your help everyone - that's the thing I love about this site... if you have a question you always get well informed answers in no time at all.

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Speaking of LHD with a 63a..

I have a LHD 1200 and a 63A 5-spd I'd like to install in it. My current 4-spd is hydraulically operated from the left hand side of the box, and the 63a operates from the right side.

Would I grab the hydraulic lines, slave cylinder, etc, etc from a b210 to make this work?

Would I be better off to maybe trade the box for a 60a 5-spd? My motor is staying mostly stock, or I might swap the motor for a stock A14.







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All you need is a longer line from your clutch master to the slave, I have the same setup in my 72 1200 coupe

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