Me and my boss stumbles accross this early this week and have been hooked since!

www.water4fuel.info

Its so very simple and if it works dead cheap! All it is is current passed through water via stainless or aluminium.

My boss rigged up some crude cells and it works! we got a flame! well a explosion but flashback arrestors will sort that out! At the rate we're going we'll have a engine rigged up on the stuff in a couple of weeks!
I offered the ratwagon to expariment on but he wants to try it on his scooter first.

Anybody had a try of this before?

yep 2 of my friends did. the evaporizer works at 17 amps with one of them and 25 amps with the other. one of them added a float switch to refill water again in the evaporizer.

My understanding is that because hydrogen is so reactive, it tends to combust too soon. The heat from the inlet valve can make it explode too soon. Plus it burns so hot that it's easy to melt your pistons. As well as that, (Thus far) there's no way to make it effeciently. IE, for the amount of electricity needed to make the gas, it would be cheaper to just have an electric car.

Dont let that stop you though.

the biggest problem is freeing enough hydrogen to power anything... burning hydrogen doesn't release as much energy as it took to make the hydrogen...

hydrogen fuel cells work... make electricity to do work efficiently.

the hydrogen embrittlement of steel and aluminum is another problem too for burning hydrogen...

methane is a much better choice, and still a difficult fuel... 3000 psi vs 300, larger tanks and the fuel still evaporates out of the tanks...

LPG is the easiest of the liquid cryogenic fuels to store and handle and run an engine on...

to liberate enough hydrogen to mix with 100 cf/m may prove to be a bit harder... you need something like 1cf/m of hydrogen at atmospheric pressure... quite a bit to make with electrolysis...

Thanks for the replys guys!
Ill show my boss on monday and see what he has to say. Hes spent hours reading up on it all!

I just saw the results for a diesel range rover going from 28mpg to 72mpg or something! I own a Diesel 60 series landcruiser and with Diesel up neer $1.70 now i want all the economy i can get!

did they actually make enough hydrogen to make a car go or is this extrapolation?

adding propane to diesel systems does the same thing and works more practically.

Its not entirely hydroden propelled. Only Hydrogen added. Done both on petrol and diesel cars.

I know the benifits of adding LPG to a Diesel, more economy and more power! My mate is getting his 80series converted soon, after rebate it will only cost him $300!

We had a few Navara D22 and D40 come in with lpg that only comes on under boost while towing. Just a small scuba style tank about 25 useable litres with a simple mixer in line and it made a hell of a difference.

Oh yeh thats not a bad idea... no good for me though... i dont even have a tow bar anymore, bent it snaching a Pajero off the beach and then binned it coz it was too low anyway!

The interesting thing is the mixing of fuels of totally different structures with opposing qualities. eg. Hydrogen and CNG.
They both suck compared to petrol or LPG but together they are showing great promise.

http://www.rediff.com/money/2004/apr/14ioc.htm

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/01/21/india-mixing-hydrogen-and-compressed-natural-gas/
Hydrogen can be separated from h20 efficiently using non traditional methods and well documented.

Storage is the issue unless mixed with another fuel successfully.

Im looking forward personally to bio-fuel from algae not grown in ponds or lakes but with cheap and ingenious vertical plastic bag factories. There are thousands of different types of algae and using bio-synthesis some are 50 per cent oil in stucture.
1 hectare of these farms can make 100000 litres compared to 30-100 litres for corn or soy.
http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2007/10/17/algae-the-next-great-biofuel-vertigro-energy/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DHjg9l-hQA




Good luck with the experiment, look forward to the efforts.