does anyone think it would be possible to put a wrx 2.0 engine in a doto 1200 ute

thanx matty bris

It will slide right into the back of your ute just fine. Be sure to pack it well to stop it sliding around.

[mumbling] water cooled Volkswagen in a 1200, what next, a Merlin in a Sunny?

Dodgeman thats a pretty ####ed up post!
In the emails you sent me you talk of being a mad old school hotrodder and you said that many years ago my friend Charlie was a major influence to you as he always went for the different and unusual engine transplants.
Then you go and say this #### to a young bloke.
If a wrx engine in a datto doesnt interest you then dont say ####.
Did you answer anything he asked? No
Your a great help and influence.
Have I ever thought of this engine swap? No
I do however think the 1200's shock towers would be to close for the wrx engine but I have never measured the engine to see.
It would be a pretty cool swap if it was done, as it would be unusual.

Dogeman maybe you should stick to your dodge and your 1000 with its cool engine swap.
[mumbling] ca16de in a 1000, what next, a blown hemi in a 1000

Perhaps i assume too much of your sense of humor.
The first line is intended to show an obvious bias towards Datsun power.It was intended to be too obvious, & thus,not taken seriously. It's a two sentence throwaway line that just about everyone else has rightly ignored.
The mumbling is to infer an old & highly biggoted old man muttering in his beard in the same way that barbers did in the 60's & 70's when hippies & long hair became popular.

None of it is to be taken seriously, & any that have followed me for a while, i thought knew that.

Perhaps the pressure of the season is getting to you & maybee you should take it a bit easy.

With a WRX engine, a small Datsun would perform VERY nicely, but i suspect that the problems linked to it's instalation would be great. No one to my knowledge has done it yet, & maybee there is a reason for that.
The unblown Dodge hemi goes into a Dodge chassis,.. & my 1000 will get a Nissan / Datsun engine of one sort or another. Hopefully a CAxxDE

Charlies engine choices were also trad old school instalations that had a rich history in another time & place. They had been made unfashionable with the introduction of newer designs. He was pioneering [with others] this history revival over here. I am following in those footsteps. While these engines did not match up with the same make of chassis, all these engines shared a common basic design concept & layout. How many layout variation of 50's & 60's Americam V8's can there be?

It's too bad that you have taken unnecessary offence.
Merry Christmas
Chris

BurP.

Not such a bad idea ... the flat-four powertrain would have low center of gravity.

Check out this previous disucssion:
Quote:one for thought

Here at Dimlight Racing we've been discussing this swap for quite some time (epsecially since Tim has a Subrau for a daily driver). Having measured all of the Subaru flat fours I can tell you that none of the good ones "fit". The EJ20T and EJ25 are too wide to fit without a complete front suspension redesign. The older SOHC 1.8 engines (Brat, GL) will fit between the towers, but just barely. To get it low enough to fit the tranny anywhere near the stock tunnel location, you will probably have to notch the framerails, too. Then you run into the problem of how to run the forward driveshafts. If you've ever seen one of the set-ups out on the car, it's a right mess.

As with any swap, with enough fabricating skill it could be done. But you would have to ask yourself why? That's alot of work for not much power (relatively speaking). And all just to have the only AWD 1200?

dodgeman I think I will call you Storyteller from now on, as you always use one to try to get yourself out of trouble.

If thats your way of being funny, you need to work on your jokes abit.

No one to my knowledge has done it yet, & maybee there is a reason for that.
Key words;
my knowledge - means you don't know.
maybee there is a reason for that. - yeah cause every young bloke that thinks of this engine swap gets laughed at and treated like a fool ( but the person doing the laughing is showing how foolish they are)

Charlies engines were also trad old school instalations that had a rich history in another time & place.

one day mattymac's installations will have a rich history unless he always gets knocked for his questions. ( I hope they only make him more determined)

all these engines shared a common basic design concept & layout.

EJ series and A series both 4 cyl 4 stroke engines is common and basic enough for me.

Storyteller did I take any unnessecary offence? No, What For?
I just think its sad when others ( especially datsun1200.com members) knock peoples questions just because the Knocker doesn't know and doesnt care.
I am sure many of us have experienced this from a mechanic or performance shop;
( What a datsun with a 4 cyl ? Just put a V8 in it if you want it to be quick)

Charlie never knocked me, even though a turbo 4cyl isn't his cup of tea. All he said was Steve it sounds like fun, just find out as much as you can now so you don't waste time and money later.

PDS
It would seem, from reading Tens_and_Twenties post that there are in fact serious problems linked to this instalation, at least in relation to "the good ones," so perhaps there really is a reason that it is not a popular, or even seldom done, conversion. My interpretation of the original post was a desire to install this as a two wheel, conventional drive swap, & not an AWD conversion.

"to [the best of] my knowledge"
Not I, nor anyone, even you, can say with absolute authaurity that any number of things is an absolute. If someone has done this conversion before, i have not become aware of it yet. So what. I wrote the truth & you find fault with that.

The upright inline four, & the horrizontally opposed, four cylinder engines discussed here do in fact share the commonality of being four cycle poppet valve engines, qualifying under the "common basic design concept" heading, however i'm sure that most would agree that they do not share a common layout as i had writen, & has been repeated & highlighted in your post.
Not that the comment had anything to do with this particular subject anyway.

Charlies advice was good, but taking a tape measure to the subject components in any proposed conversion will provide much needed info very quickly, as i'm sure you know, & i'm sure that you have done many times.

It's too bad that you feel so much angst about this, but i suspect that the vitriole is a bit out of proportion to the imagined offence. In fact, it's looking like a personal attack disguised as chastisement.
Are you sure that you are in control of yourself? Not too much Xmas cheer?

Storeyteller? call me what you will if it gives you cause to feel better, that'l be OK with me. I suspect that any competent shrink would say that namecalling would be good therapy for you as it helps release pent up tension. Just be carefull that it doesn't run to hysteria

I hope that you, & everyone else as well, had a good christmas.
Chris

Storyteller
So what. I wrote the truth & you find fault with that.
I never once stated you didn't write the truth but I did have a fault in what you wrote.
This being what you wrote was not helpful in anyway, All you managed to do was treat Mattymacs question as a joke.
And thats a ####ed thing to do.

It would seem, from reading Tens_and_Twenties post that there are in fact serious problems linked to this instalation, at least in relation to "the good ones,"
Yeah but notice the key things,
yes many of the pitfalls that Tens_and_Twenties come across when contemplating this engine swap were described, but it was also stated that with enough work anything is possible, but you also have to ask yourself if the overall outcome is worth this effort.

If everyone in this world said I can't do something just because no one else has done it or someone said it couldn't be done.
Then just about everything we have around us wouldn't be here.( And thats a sad way to think. )