The Bluebird is similar in many ways to the GTiR in priciple with a transverse design. There's also AWD B12 and N13 Pulsar/Sentra/Sunny models and M10 Prairie/Stanza wagons. Again, both are transverse engines and use either SOHC CA's or GA series engines.

-Ed

Found another AWD option: Nissan Bluebird

AWD SR20DET. Don't know anything about the importer, but his prices look good.

Thanks for the diagram on the fuel system. Looks pretty straightforward. Gives me a bit more confidence in going forward. Adding parts to my list right now.

Here's a diagram of the surge tank system. I'll try to find the pics of the surge tank I made. They're are prints so i'll have to scan them.




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That's awesome. I think I saw you had postes some info about that regarding a supercharged 1200. I found a surge tank on Ebay for $48 USD that holds almost .5 gallon. Now that I'm starting to understand it, it's really perfect. For some reason I thought it would hold just a few ounces and run out quickly. Oh well, I'm learning. Any pics you can throw up would be really appreciated. I learn visually very quickly. Thanks for the input.

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R32 Skyline suspension is similar to s14 and I believe R33 is like S14 but the difficulty in using a skyline system is it's designed for the RB 6 cyclinder and one driveshaft actually passes through the oil pan I think. Changing to a 4 cylinder would present some engineering issues... not impossible but difficult. Using the 6 cylinder engine in a B310 would be difficult to say the least, particularly as you'd have no choice as to the engine position as it would be dictated by the front axle location.

It would probably be easier to build a system around GTiR running gear but having had a GTiR for a little while i wouldn't want to...fast but they don't handle well. Too much understeer and to unpredictable through twisty roads. It would be a great deal easier to engineer GTiR stuff into a B11 than a B310.

As for your gas tank. I had an M10 Nissan Prairie (Stanza wagon in the US) which I put a CA18ET into and retained the stock tank and converted to EFI. I used a low pressure electric pump to move fuel from the tank to a small surg tank I made which was mounted under the floor. A high pressure EFI pump was fed from this and the fuel from the fuel rail returned to it. Think of the system as two circuits. the low pressure side circulates fuel from the main tank to the surge tank and back again and the high pressure, from the surge tank to the engine and back to to surge tank. With flat underfloor tanks you are likely to get fuel stavation when cornering so a surge tank is a good idea. I made mane from a piece of flat plate, the top of a 4" disposible welding gas cylinder and some carburettor pipe unions. I probably still have pictures of it somewhere.

Honestly, a CA18DET into a B310 is a pretty easy swap so you should have no real problems if you go that route.

Right on. Good luck, and make sure to document things really well for other to see.

oh man thank you so much theclerk74 for bringing up this topic.because of you i finally got my answer and saw with my own eyes that a vg30 could fit in my b310 and with no cutting!!!!not only that...i can also fit any vq20,25 or 30 engine too cuz they basically the same size as the vg30...wow....i think i have a project coming up!!!
thank you

Speaking of gas tanks- After some searching and reading, It seems like I can keep my factory tank, but I'm not sure if it will require any modifications with the high pressure fuel injection setup I would need with the CA18DET. Can someone help point me in the right direction? If I didn't have a wagon, I would be fine with putting a new fuel cell in the trunk, but I have reservations about putting it behind the back seat of the wagon. Help?

So maybe if you're brave, you could figure out/engineer a way to mount essentially what would be a FWD setup.... Hmmm. And I thought the CA18DET would be a PITA.
I guess the Skyline could be had with AWD. Similar to the S13-S15, right? I think on occasion you can come across a front clip with the rear drivetrain included. Talk about some money, but if you wanted to be the first kid in school to have one. I think that it would be easier to find a Pulsar GTI-R setup as size-wise it would fit better. But that's just my opinion. And I still can't figure out whether or not I can use my factory gas tank in my planned swap, btu I can comment on things like this....

I've not experienced any roughness or vibration with SOHC VG's in the past. Bang for buck they are almost unbeatable given their reliability but they are getting a bit old now here so parts are becoming harder to get. There i doubt it's a problem. I have one in my shed that's only got 70,000 miles on it but I doubt I'll ever use it in a swap now because of that. Long term, in the UK, it's probably not a wise choice anymore.

Remember, a lot of 510 owners there run them so there is a wealth of knowledge about them over there. They were probabably the number one swap into a 510 before cheap SR's became available.

As for VG vs VQ...in terms of technology you can't compare as there's 20 years between them but in terms of size the VQ is undoubtedly wider. It cannot fail to be as it's DOHC. Both will fit in the same engine bay but you'll actually be able to fit you hand down the side of a SOHC Compare VG30ET powered 510 with Dave Lum's VG30DETT powered one and you can see what I mean!

BTW, there were no AWD S13's. All of Nissan's small AWD platforms suitable for cars are based on a transverse engine layout apart from the Skyline. The small truck setups such as D21 are a bit more suited to off road than on road and aren't really very performance orientated.

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