HEY champ i have a Toolex 180amp gas, payed $1100 fully ajustable setting so no blowing holes, does the job i need hasnt missed a beat.......

gasless a no good the flux wire is crap!, you get what you pay for, .............cheers goodluck

I bought an older 2nd hand SIP migmate [gas] off ebay for $300. It doesn't have amp settings; just HI MED and LOW but I've used it for rust repairs on my charger; my 1200 wagon and made a rack to hold my swag on the back of my motorbike, and I have no complaints.

my mate paid about $400 and he does everything from pannals to roll cages.

i was lucky to get a 130 gas/gasless mig on ebay and its the best thing iv brought it takes a little more time to weld then normal mig but practical and its fan cooled its wicked and i wouldnt look back

It is less expensive to use the large bottle than the size D bottle down here in tassie 130 to fill to fill the large size C I think and 99 to fill size D plus about 12.50 a month for rental of the bottle. If you use all the gas just take the bottle back till your next project and you dont get charge rental

I inquired about bottle rental for this and oxy welding. The yearly rate was something like $130 - $150 and that seems quite reasonable to me cos if your going to have one your going to use it.

what you get for that sort of money is a welder with no cooling fan which is limited to what you can do, panel work is ok but if you have to weld thicker metal and you use them to long they will cut out as they over heat they need to cool down abit before they will start to weld again. very annoying. end of the day you are better to pay about $950 -$1000 for one with a fan to do every thing you need to make and weld. you can also now buy mini bottles of gas they are disposable for small jobs

I've been using my unimig for the last five years for odd jobs etc. I think I paid aroud $800. Works great with gas but you do have to be carefull with the heat on panels etc. I learned that the hard way!

If you are going to be fixing rust holes in thin panels etc, I would use bronze welding with an oxy set. That is what I'm going to do soon with my car. Also if the rust holes are small you can use rust dissolver, then bronze weld them up, after that you would put fish oil on the inside.

Because bronze melts a lot easier that steel you can fix holes and weld patches in with out having to fix pinholes, blow through and big chunky welds that you tend to get with MIG.

But it won't be any good for structural things.

yea the ones im looking at are gas and gasless. i will be using gas. my mate has one he bought of ebay and uses it for everything