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Re: Small engines less than 1500cc
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dragging it up, one of the NZ boys has done it in his rally car.
http://www.datsun.co.nz/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=940&start=15
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He modified the orginal fwd bell housing by the look of it and uses a t50 toyota box too.
He also moved the whole motor back behind the crossmember but that wouldn't really be necessary as the are still lighter than an a series.

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Dazza If you read the previous posts youll see it has to be nissan and we dismissed the sr20de due to the obvious reasons.
Just so you know the Honda b16 is heavy and sand cast and the sr16ve outperforms it hands down in NA.


The topic now is the cg13de and can we see pics of this conversion?

Also why not go EDIS-4? its cheap.

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sr is heavy and will kill his budget i think
under 1500 is a pain as you miss out on b16 honda (i know it goes the other way but theres nothing better, i'm sure someone will find a way)
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cg13 sounds like a good option
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ah F#ck it 2jzgte mid mount :)

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hi guys just a quick note to say that i am using a cg13de engine in a 1200 ute and am converting it to rwd at the moment using a toyota split case 5 speed out of a sprinter with a modified bell housing and hand made flywheel , tilton hydraulic release bearing and ap racing clutch . just have to get over the ignition issue but will most likley go the crank trigger and motec/autronic option, should be in one piece after xmas . so it's not impossible .

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In that case get the sleeves bored out on a cg13de 76.5mm and get some darton sleeves will give 1480cc. Also use the E15et Rods.
80.5mm stroke standard should rev to 7500rpm nicely as did the fiats with the same stroke.

If you get the darton sleeves you could sell some to the K11 community also which would dream of that bore size.

Hopefully theres enough room in the sand casting for even bigger capacity.

You could also use the CGA3DE crank at 82.8 and 75mm bores for 1463cc. The CG3DE on the last model has 101 jp hp from stock.

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I like the sr16de idea, would only be cost effective if you could find just a sr16ve crank as whole sr16ve motors are expensive. You probably could find one resonably easily as alot of 16ve guys stroke them out to 2L.
SR's are heavy though and big! I should know i'm stuffing one in my 1200. a cg13 wouldn't make as much power (should be able to get a solid 120 with sidies and a decent exhaust) but it certainly would handle better with the cg in there being somewhere in the vincinity of 60-70kgs lighter!



Sounds good but I think the extra 60kg would be a killer.



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I like the sr16de idea, would only be cost effective if you could find just a sr16ve crank as whole sr16ve motors are expensive. You probably could find one resonably easily as alot of 16ve guys stroke them out to 2L.
SR's are heavy though and big! I should know i'm stuffing one in my 1200. a cg13 wouldn't make as much power (should be able to get a solid 120 with sidies and a decent exhaust) but it certainly would handle better with the cg in there being somewhere in the vincinity of 60-70kgs lighter!


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i know hes not a pioneer but i am
i was going to help him out a lot with the suzuki motor but as he now doesnt want to do it it may look like the cg13 is on the books

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Im going to suggest now something different because the cg13 has not been converted to rwd yet and this person is not a pioneer.

SR16VE with 68mm stroke destroked to 64mm and using longer conrods than 144.95mm from Crower or other as the sr16de rods are weak.

Carb manifolds are available for webers and quad msr bike carbs.

Just find a cheap sr20de for starters and get an sr16ve crankshaft to work on and pistons and the aftermarket rods and solid lifter kit and race camshafts.

The sr20de head choice is due to the no vvl control giving you the option of running carbs.

86mm bores with piston choice gallore and crazy rod stroke ratio with 64mm stroke should see a 9000rpm motor.
For around 4-5k you should have a 230-250hp all day motor depending on the cams and head work.

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opps typo, fixed now... had a housmate with one at one stage, nice gear box action. just flick of the wrist and changed gears.

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