yeah i understand that it is apples and oranges. but still i wouldnt want to try to peddle my standard ish road coupe round the mount in a sub 3.45 lap. because it would be wrong on 2 levels.
1 i actually HAVE mechanical sympathy
2 you would need some serious guts to give it a go, the humble little 1200 wasnt built for speed esspesially in near standard form. i found this out when my 1200 crossed the road on the crest of conrod with a slight side wind. not fun, but it got my attention

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D- the Group C Bluebird was powered by the mighty Z18et.[Group C Qualifying Lap Record: 2:13.850 - George Fury (1984 - Nissan Bluebird Turbo) In qualifying trim the turbos were good for approx 20kms. The quaifying engines were like hand grenades also. Sure did ruffle a few feathers in the V8 camps. It doesn't look tooo exotic by todays standards.




Also the lap record still stands as no car has beaten the record before the track layout was altered.
As for the chase, this three turn sequence was added in preparation for the World Touring Car Championship round in 1987 as Con-Rod Straight exceeded the FIA's length for an un-broken straight.

Woody, I think it would be like comparing apples to oranges when comparing your coupe to the cars of the 70's as the torque alone produced by your A15 would be huge advantage over the A12. Tyres and brakes are also worlds apart as well, same goes for Webers V's Hitachi SU's [From memory I think even some of the cars campained ran the std downdraught carb, could be wrong on that point though]. Also in addition to this, the production car's raced in the 70's also lugged around their full interiors.

well done though on your regularity run time

cheers
benny

hi mate

it would be awsome if you mounted a camera in your 1200 and took some video of a few laps or something

that would be spectacular viewing

If the times were from 1970 they were racing under 'series production' rules which means they were basically in the same condition they left the factory, with a roll cage and tyres being two of the main things allowable/changed. The only reason we had things like the ford gtho's and xu-1 torana bathurst specials (and e49 chargers) were to make the required (and I forget - it might have been 200 or 250) minimum production figures to make that model/limited edition eligible to race. Around 1973 or 74 (I honestly don't remember) they changed the rules, and got progressively more liberal, so the car had the same basic bits as the factory, but the heads could be ported, cams and exhaust were basically free, so massive changes in potential output, and less need for hi-po factory examples to ensure they were competitive.

So put in perspective, the times by the dattos in 1970 aren't actually that bad at all!

yeah the track is longer now, they added the chase in, in 1972 i think, to stop people killing them selves as they came under the bridge. i can see why but, coz the little 1200 crossed to the other side of the road on conrod with a little bit of a cross wind, man that caught my attention quick!!!

thats right the old bluebird with an fj20 did years ago
compared to the latest super v8 is still king.

I'm pretty sure the track's different, although I can't remember if it is longer or shorter. I remember reading about the fact that the george fury bluebird set the lap record that stood for years but then the track was changed in the late 80's (guess) meaning all lap records beforehand were obsolete.

I'm sure it's on the web somewhere but can't be bothered looking

Is it the same length circuit?

I not sure how much modifying they were allowed to do in those days too - I think the tyres had to be stock...

Still good going!

mmmm in 1970 the 1200s were doing a 3.25 qualifying lap.
at the festival of sporting cars at easter time i did a 2.59.45 in my a15 powered 1200 coupe running on a048's in regularity wow, now i realise just how quick the little 1200 is in comparison. and it probably would have about the same hp as the cars back then too.

I summarised some of those results here:

http://datsun1200.com/modules/mediawi ... title=Datsuns_at_Bathurst