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Re: L series engines in a 1200
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Personally except for being an all datto conversion I would build one with the Suzuki G13B as power to weight not only helps in straight line performance but handling and braking.


Dave Homer is the fastest guy in the country with those things and had very highly developed and record holding NA and turbo engines. His under 1600 record at Mt Cotton with the NA G13B is 48.04. I ran 48.3 the one time I took the 146rwbhp L18 1200 coupe there having not run there for a couple of years before that. Would certainly have expected to go quicker if I went back a couple more times. But anyway, there was only a few tenths in it. Shows that handling and braking aren't really compromised by the L series conversion.
To back that up his 10.8second 1/4mile turbo G13B engined Swift with 237kw atw which holds the record at Mt Cotton for over 2L was a tenth slower than my 230rwkw Datsun 1200 coupe there. He spent a couple of years getting his setup right and used tyre softener. I did 3 events on the old 2nd hand tyres that were on the car when I bought it. Comparisons don't get much fairer than that. The CA18 turbo 1200 was heavier than a L series 1200, so again there's no need to worry about handling or braking with those engine conversions in a 1200.

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I am loving the idea of a mild L series over a ca18det now, Get to keep the period thing going, and I love the look of a good polished L series, I'd love my engine bay to be a 4 banger version of this one day.

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Plenty of skids to be had with efi/turbo, but tbh a 700kg car with bullsh1t power is alot to handle, No safety in high speed accidents (another reason why I am going with a roll cage), and if it ends up anything like my skyline, skids on the highway at 100 are not my thing anymore. A car I can strap around the hills without burning my brakes for every corner and something that makes a cool N/A sound will be the bomb for me.

Hoping to end up with getting the L20B ported, mild cam and raised compression with twin webber DCOE's/extractors as an end result.

Posted on: 2013/1/6 8:14
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Id pee my pants if I saw your car too tinman lol

Imagine all the questions I get when they think it's injected then say,"where's the injectors?" When you say Lpg they say why bother or wtf?

The L gets bonus credit in the times if efi and turbo conversions too I think

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L-series engines were factory-fitted to B110, so it is indeed period.

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i think your missing the point. yes there are plenty of cheep modern engines available that are light with good power and bolt in fitting kits BUT if you want a period engine for a low cost that has a #OOPS#load more power than an a series the l series wins.
i can't tell you how many people wet there pants when i pop the bonnet and they see the humble l18e in there, even people with big power datos.

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Personally except for being an all datto conversion I would build one with the Suzuki G13B as power to weight not only helps in straight line performance but handling and braking.
I own a Mark 1 GTI Suzuki and stock with 100 HP it weighs 683KG dry and absolutely kicks ass when compared to the 4AGE engined Toyotas,That shows what a difference overall power to weight makes as the right 4AGE makes between 110 to 125 HP ex factory. No slightly hot L series gets near that,The most powerfull L series ex factory was the Injected 180B SSS in Japan with 125 HP.

Finding a good L series is becoming an issue as well with corrosion of the Heads causing potential problems,A later Suzuki Engine is modern,Light and available for a good price and suits a light car like a 1200 Coupe and is a bolt up RWD conversion thanks to the Sierras being compatable and using a separate Transfer case setup for the 4WD.

The Mark 1 used a Distributor and Fuel only Computer so these allow a twin weber conversion quite easily and that really makes them crack,The later engines had upgraded timing belts (Wider and Stronger) but went to a full management system,The Mark 1 Dissy can be retrofitted and with twin Webers would be a cool conversion with great power to weight.

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hi, please go ahead and click New Topic (at the top of this page) and put the title as "L-series engines in a B210". This topic is for putting one in a 1200.

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wish u all a very happy new year guys.

i'm looking into swapping an L16 into my b210.

the engine is currently on a 160j.

i need advice.

will the x member bolt on directly on my car?

also the L16 has a 3 speed g.box, which 5 speed box can i use?

thanks

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I put an L20B with headers and twin SU's into a sunny coupe once.
It was lots of work, and the end result was very disapointing. I'd never bother with an L series motor again.

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Bare engine weights
a10 61KG
A12 70kg (30kg block bare) early front dizzie
A15 80kg (36kg block bare)
L16 86kg (37.5kg block bare)
CA18de Bare ??? (38kg block bare)
L18 98-100kg (46-48kg block bare) siamese bores
L20 ???kg (48-52kg block bare) siamese bores

Suzuki g13b engine block no head 35kg (all internals)
(lighter than A15 block stripped bare!!!!)

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