well...

i am running a stock radiator with no fan....and been doing it for about 2 months now...

even in traffic it wont go past half way...but after 10 mintues at idle it goes past half....then every few minutes it just creeps up....but i dont normally stay stationary for more than 10 mintues.. but i keep my eye on it...

when i had the fan on there, it just sat on halfway the whole time....didnt move....150km/h, or idle for 20 minutes, just sat on half...

now, it runs below the first mark when cruisin 60 or more, which means its basically running slightly cold? work that one out...then at the lights, moves up, then back down, so....you get the picture...

oh yeh, and taking the fan off makes a BIG difference. When i took it off, i reckon i got at least 1000 more revs out of it, and just quicker response. It's like having a lightened flywheel

hope my rambling helps

out of intrest where does everyones temp gauge sit in traffic? and when cruisin?, old motor used to run hot but i dont want to harm the new motor as im putting thermos on and want to be carefull,
thanks