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Re: A15 needs bottom end work.
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Well over here in Aus I can get a cam ground for $70 so i couldnt see it being dearer over there.

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Re: A15 needs bottom end work.
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oh, it gets better... I've decided to just get a freshly remanufactured engine swapped in, so I'm gonna have them put the A12gx cam in it then, and then in the spring I'm thinking I'll convert it to propane so I can get out of smog check. maybe turbo then ;)

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Re: A15 needs bottom end work.
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I'd be really interested to know if that cam works in an A14/15.

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nismo a12gx cam: M-13001-H2300

Is a later model A series cam for engines with the dizzy at the back?

I think I'm gonna source a newly rebuilt engine and get this one overhauled later, I'd rather not mess around with not having enough $$ to make it good.

I might have overrevved it. I was at about 50 in second gear, it was still pulling and didn't make a fuss till i shifted to third.

I'd get the cam reground if the nismo a12gx cam weren't $115. It's probably cheaper than a regrind.

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Good info Dodgeman, as I'm finding that cams are a little hard to come by in the US. Thanks

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I think all the A12GX engines have been imported to the US.
The A12 cam should not fit but the A12a,A13,A14 cams should.
Now, could you have the A12GX cam used as a master for reginding an A15 cam? I'm not sure how cam grinders do it or what they use as masters.

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Yes, 1200/ A12 engines were sold here in B110, B210 & B310 models while the US got larger displacements from '74 onwards. This club is international, & it's easy to forget that diferent model names & specs were sold into diferent markets, so advice from one country may not always be accurate in another. It's one of those things we need to keep in mind sometimes, so yes, A12's were made in two configurations, which is why i refer to them by diferent designations, & yes, the A12 cam [as distinct from the 1200 cam] will physicly interchange into the A14/ 15 engines, however, you should be able to get your old cam reground.

If that proves to be a problem, you may want to contact Feral at Datrats He should be able to help you out with all your needs.

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Why dont you just get your current cam ground to gx specs. That will save you the confusion about wether it will fit or not.

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Dodgeman, I just realized that we may have some confusion because you're in Aus and I'm in the US. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the 1200 A12 ended here in 1973. In 1980 or so, we got the A12a. The only GX engine I'm aware of here was the 1978 B210GX with an A14.

So now I'm wondering if the A12GX cam will fit an A14? There's been one on ebay lately.

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A12's have the distributor in a different place than the other A's. The distributor gear won't be in the right place.


To clarify
While the Datsun 1200 engine is an A12 engine, it is diferent in a number of ways from the later A12 engines, so i tend to call this family either 1200 engines [from a 1200 car] ... or A12's [from anything after the 1200 model]
The 1200 GX had a foward mounted distributor [above the oil pump], so the cam from this engine can not be used in the later A12's which require an additional gear to drive their rearward mounted distributor. It can however, be used in the A10 engine.

The GX engine was continued into the 1974 [& later] B210 series, known here as the 120Y models & this A12 engine had the same basic configuration as the A14/15 engines. This A12 GX cam CAN be used in other A series engines & i will be using my spare A12 GX cam in another engine for my son's B210. With any luck, it will go into the spare [big bore] A13 block that we have here.

So be carefull when speaking of A12's as there are two types, & both were offered in a GX variant. Better to call the early ones "1200" engines as it describes both the nominal capacity, & the car model that used it.

P.S. You should be able to use the later A12/14/15 cam in the earlier 1200 & A10 engines. In this instance the rearmost drive gear on the camshaft is no longer used as the 1200's distributor uses the front one, & the fuel pump eccentric will not line up with the 1200's fuel pump, so you would need to use an electric pump instead, but it does fit & work.

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