dodgeman... 2.3 inches either side isnt that much at all. i should have to get the leaf mounts moved and FWD offset wheels but other than that shouldnt it fit?

Ute diff width must be wider. Pretty sure that standard width is 1305mm. Hope so cause my BW diff is getting cut down to 1325mm!

I have seen a bloke getting around in a ute with the 910 assembly jammed under it. He runs FWD offset mags but still uses flares on the rear (has to).

edit: I am running +15 rims, with -35 you should be able to fit them under the guards iff the 910 is only 1360mm.

You keep refering to the H190, which is just the bit in the middle,.. the diferential. You want to know about the rear axle assembly.

A number of Nissan vehicles used this diferential in their rear axle assemblies. Some commercial models, some passenger models, & some sports models, all of which had a diferent width to suit the car that they were used under.

According to my literature, the stock track for the rear of a 1200 is 49 inches [it's an original brochure] which my quackalator says is 1244.6 mm, while the Aussie Bluebird is 53.6 inches, or 1360 mm.

It looks like the Bluebird [910] rear axle track is 2.3 inches wider,... per side. Perhaps some Silvia models are narower, but i doubt that you will find a stock width rear axle that comes within a suitable distance. Narrowing a rear axle may ultimately prove to be the final solution.

i had heard that the H190 was only 2 inches wider than the 1200 model diffs. would it be just the leaf mounts that need to be moved to make it fit....or is it just too big and im dreaming?


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Low1000 how much you looking at spending? Are you looking at getting one now or later? Might be able to help you out. PM me.

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I am not familiar with the various Nissan models that used the H190 diferential, but it would seem that series three B/birds [910] used them across the board, so one from an LX wagon would be a leaf spring type with discs. The LX & TRX car ones were also disc braked, but used a coil spring suspension.
Do they [rear axle assembly] bolt into a 1200? Not even close. They are much wider both at the spring mounts as well as overall.

In Nissanspeak, the "H" means "diferential" & the numbers after it represent the diameter of the crownwheel, in millimeters. The H190 diferential will not fit either the 1200 car housing [H145] or the ute housing [H165]
As the numbers got bigger, so too did the physical size of the diff, & the weight increased noticeably as well.

As i wrote before, there's a junk ute, complete with it's rear axle assembly, down the road a bit at the right price, & yes, i probably did do a fairly good deal on the TRX rear axle that i bought. I had done quite a bit of business with that particular wrecker at the time & he probably took pity on me.

I think you should be paying around $300 aussie for a complete ute diff.

yeah, sidedrought thats the one i rang....he wants $450 for each diff, and he cant even conferm that there H165's.

dodgeman, how rare are the discbrake rearend h190's and do they bolt into a 1200? did you get an extremly good deal in getting one for $75?

DATSUN 1200 Coupe parts from $50, 2 ute diffs, ute cross member BRINGELLY 0411-59 9954

Both the disc brakes & the diff center are being installed into a very early 200B wagon rear axle assembly. These early ones use the Japanese rear end, however production switched to the Borg Warner unit early in the piece. My wagon is a late version, so it became necessary to use the whole early model rear axle assembly to get the rear discs using only factory parts.
The 910 Bluebird rear axle assembly is the same, but wider & yes, my 200B SX mags will clear the brakes.

I bought the TRX rear end, out of the same car that donated its five speed, [now in my car], from a local wrecker.

There is a complete H165 type rear end in a 1200 ute in a wreckers in Cooma. I have posted the picture up twice & i'm told that the whole car would sell for about $100, but nobody seems to be prepared to go & get it. This ute, along with a lot of other cars is due to go to the squasher soon, so he who hesitates is lost. It can be at home in Sydney within one day if one leaves early, but ring first.

I have put the picture of the junk ute, complete with details back up. Its titled "You like my rear?" I don't know what more i can do to help.