Hey Craig,

Apparantly they use carbon (fibre?) tanks, that are fibrius and leak in a controlled way. I am not entirely convinced but it is interesting technology.

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ps where you planning on going to the motorkhana today? pity about the rain!

".makes the engine run smoother.blah blah blah...no-one has actually ever done it...oh except maybe Stan Meyer...."

YET!!!


you do have a point, a very good point, BUT.....

If say all of man kinds nutters where to just give up on it, because some people say it's not possible, it won't work, be happy with the situation you find yourself in, don't fight the system you will loose, etc etc etc..... all the things these oil overlords are saying. Do you think the airplane would have been in existence today, or even the car for that matter... I can but only imagine the ridicule Daimler had to endure with his invention...

nobody said it was going to be easy, I was not expecting to get it working from the getgo. The fact that Meyer actually got it to work, just proves the point.... the fact that he got killed for it, was because his invention was still kept secret and that is his doing.... not advisable with these kind of things....

I for one would rather try my best to get out from underneath these oil overlords thumbs, than to sit around waiting for my gov, or anyone else for that matter,
to get me out.......



oh by the way it is impossible to do a qtr mile in less than 10 seconds... realy it is, don't even bother trying, Iv'e seen many people try and fail misserable, myself included.... I've seen people get killed trying.....

and yet, we still keep trying.

the patent rights for that is only in the tank...it needs to handle a gazillion psi in pressure to be able to power the car for that range. I dunno if id like to see a tank like that go off in an accident....
i worked at qantas and we used to fill the o2 tanks on the planes and the mini ones the crew uses in emergencies. Anyway in the lab this tank was being filled by a first year apprentice and he dropped it and broke the end tap off. Thes things were only 30cm (1 foot for our imperial friends) long and 12 cm wide. Anyway this tank went through 3 double brick walls and ended up hitting a car on qantas drive at mascot 1/4 mile away. They still have the hole in the wall of the lab to remind new apprentices of the dangers of compressed air. Dunno Ianey youre a braver man than me mate....Gimme slow burning 100 octane anyday...

I was reading in the paper the other day about pneumatic powered cars that they are developing. You have a 320 litre tank of air in your car, which has a range of 120km's and costs $2 to fill up at the servo. And it has a power plug also so you plug into mains and it has an air compressor to fill it's own tank in 4 hours if you have time. The technology is avaliable, but the oil companies bought the patent rights to it. It is people like that who will cause the downfall of the human race I reckon.

On a brighter note, I have been thinking seriously about having a pneumatic powered hillclimb car. It would also work for drag cars where you don't have to go a large distance. The engines are tiny and light. You could put a independant rear end in a 1000, then solid mount the engine right in front of the diff in place of the tail shaft. Air tank in the engine bay. You would knock 150 kg's off the car and have amazing weight distribution. mmmm

wellyou see right there...makes the engine run smoother.blah blah blah...no-one has actually ever done it...oh except maybe Stan Meyer but got shot by the oil companies and his hydrogen buggy was a lethal bomb.
Just let all the greenies who have been sucked into the lie go their own way and we can enjoy our petrol engines.
just remember back to the whale blubber days.....oh booh hoo the oils running out save the whales blah blah blah then something better came along. they though land back then with oil on it was a total write off...bad for grazing etc etc.
Dont get sucked in people... theres too much money in all this environmental b/s to stop it now.
look I dont want to be under the gun where the arabs have us all under their thumb i would dearly love to drive an electric car just to piss them off but as someone said some one will hold the monopoly on lithium. It will always happen its the world we live in...enjoy your petrol engines they are fantasitic. Come to think of it I love steam engines as well.....hehehe big white and black smoke trails, smell of wood/coal burning, the grease and oil almost up there with leaded avgas burnt by a works Nissan GTR group A motor........

well, I'm still an infant in the world of hydrogen, so far, as best I can tell, not worse . I am however still way down on the amount of gas I can and should produce per minute, for the real benifits to be seen.

I have however noticed, even with the small amount of gas I do manage, the engine runs a lot smoother.. and it's almost as if the lower grade fuels actually works better. even under boost conditions where they could not be used without HHO, so just that is allready a saving in cost.... almost 15c\l in price diffs from 93oct to 95oct here....

Hows the hydrogen working for you? Much power/economy gain? Any problems you have encountered?

don't for one moment think a 500+Ftlb dead flat torque line from 0RPM's all the way through 6000RPM's is boaring.... turbolag, that is boaring...


HHO is the near future of internal combustion.
I am actually one of those backyard tinkerers...




Notice that fruit-jar in the righthand corner, behind the Strut, with the little blue tube and wires going into it....


I'm even screwing around with some fuel reforming consepts...

does anyone know hard hard it is to convert a petrol motor to run on pure ethanol? while electric motors do make a lot more sense as a performance motor it just won't be the same with a boring dead flat torque curve and no noise.

heard on the radio the other day that somewhere, some company genetically modified a certian yeast strain and now its by product is very close to crude oil... sounds promising.