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Re: ca18det build
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Just put a stocker in while building up the new motor

Posted on: 2012/3/25 11:22
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Re: ca18det build
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I'm looking at a wiseco piston and pauter rod kitfrom USA and some ack race bearings for my forged ca build along with some tomie cams and cam gears, arp head studs, and a 6boost manifold and gt2871r I think this is the best value that I've been looking at! Plus then head work, oil pump work, winged sump and the a few other things!
This is what I'll be building over time for my race car

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Good advice Matty! That's what will get you your figures for shore...dont be cutting corners on anything....all the things not on that list also

The 2871r turbo with a 6boost mano will only come on 100rpm later than a disco potato so that's easy to compromise for the added power and head room for boost. I am bias as that's what I have just brought (not fitted yet)

It's a big enough figure for a dato that's for shore


Good luck

Posted on: 2012/3/25 10:04
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All the bits for my ute have been acquired, I only need time and a panel beater/painter! Anyone able to help
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Whos building ya motor?

Posted on: 2012/3/25 9:50
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OK mate

I'm guessing by your initial comments you are after 300hp at the flywheel with potential for more if required.

An S15 style GT28R 320hp turbo will get you there but will need around 20-22psi and won't give you much head room. My CA makes 182rwkw on 20psi (approximately 290HP at the flywheel based on a driveline loss figure of 20%). To achieve this figure required a Nistune computer, GTR injectors, Bosch O40 fuel pump, exhaust camshaft on the intake side with adjustable cam gears. There are also the usual changes like a forged pistons, 3" exhaust, intercooler etc too. Both manifolds, head gasket and internals (excluding the pistons and rings) are stock Nissan gear just rebuilt carefully.

My choice would be a GT28RS 350hp (also known as a GT2860R or disco potato). The increase in lag over the S15 turbo will be minimal with plenty of grunt under the curve. To the modifications listed above I would then add a 6Boost exhaust manifold, lightly clean up the head, larger injectors and a larger fuel pump and run the car on E85 fuel. It will make your initial power requirements with head room to spare and run cooler than on 98 octane premium unleaded while being very responsive and fun to drive.

A GT2871R will obviously give you a higher peak power figure but may be getting too laggy for a street driven car. This may not be an issue for you but try and get a passenger ride in a couple of cars to get an idea before spending your hard earned on the wrong turbo.

The rest is all pretty standard fare - forged pistons with matching rings (plenty of available options), fresh bearings, new or rebuilt oil pump, new water pump, new hoses and gaskets and belts. The stock rods will live at these power levels provided they are checked and prepped but the Spool options offer great bang for your buck especially if you end up with a larger turbo, big cams etc that require you to rev it north of 8000rpm.

Matty

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Hi matty its going to be a street driven car that handles well also,im putting the maddat kit in it,not really interested in going fast around corners more a straight line car.As for budget its unlimited,if it takes 3yrs to save for what i want done then so be it.

Posted on: 2012/3/24 23:31
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Quote:

matty wrote:
Are you chasing 300hp at the wheels or flywheel?

What will the car predominantly be used for?

What sort of compromises in power delivery can you live with?

What's your budget?


Have you thought about these questions? Have you discussed them with your engine builder?

Regardless of how good he is at building motors these are things you should discuss before any work commences. For example you could potentially end up with a motor set up for drag racing when you want to compete in lap sprints.

There are plenty of us on here who have been through this with CA18DETs and there is a lot more to it than simply throwing a set of forged pistons and a rebuild kit at it.

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Bevo he is taking care off me,he said just to trust him,that he will build me a tough motor,im asking these ?'s because i wondering whether or not i can save a bit off money here and there.He said that my ca will be fully balanced,crank prepped,honed,chunky cams big turbo and fully forged for around the 5k mark,which ive got him to committ to in the price off doing the full conversion(tubbes,fit diff, move leaf springs,build motor, electrical,fitt gauges etc etc) 25k.Basically get it on the road.

Posted on: 2012/3/24 6:42
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Not being rude mate but the person building your motor should know most of this and if not why are u letting me do it mate?

Posted on: 2012/3/24 6:28
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Hi guys sorry for my ignorence but are the spool rebuild kits good quality also arp main and head bolts.Will they give me a tough engine and also when a motor is balanced what items are balanced and how do they do it.Do they need to do brand new pistons etc,i thought that they would come balanced from the factory.

Posted on: 2012/3/24 6:09
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