so are you saying a well body holden HZ ute is a ute but a 1 tonner HZ is a comercial vehicle?

if so you have your head up your arse, you say land cruisers utes aren't derived from a passenger vehicle what about the 5 seater landcruiser's ones with a roofed rear, that ,means the AU falcon ute is either a ute or a commercial just because one has a tray that ispart of the body and one is a commercial becuase it has a tray?
sorry but it doesn't fit

and if you do believe this and then do have your head up your arse DM then you have never seen TV to hear people call their utes "trucks" in America i am american and i have to say get all your facts right DM before you tell people to get theirs right first.


i'm done i don't need an arms length post to ham on in