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Re: A Series? L Series? or CA?
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)
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This has become a really good discussion thread as all of us are coming up with our favorite theories & some really usefull info & arguments are being presented.

I think that we would all agree that engine choice must be directly linked to budget & it's the size of the budget that drives the degree of choice available.
For those of us on more modest budgets, i see the choice focusing on the "A" series versus "L" series debate, & this is to some degree dependant on ones workshop & it's capabilities.

The "A" series has many adherants, oncluding me, & is the easiest to fit, since the B10 series of chassis came with one anyway. They are plentifull, & cheap, & performance parts are also reasonably plentifull. By using the A14/15 engine with even the modest OEM type Webber carb & a set of pipes, performance can be noticeably improved at a very modest cost. These engines can be built to provide very substantial power improvements, but the cost involved allows us to look at other ways of uprating vehicle performance with a lower stressed engine.

L18_B110 offers a very convincing argument for the "L" series conversion, yet it is not one of the more popular ones. Perhaps we should re-read his comments in this, & other threads, more carefully as it looks to have a lot to offer. He is speaking from personal experience & does not seem to be even thinking of switching away from this combination. Perhaps he clearly remembers to old addage,"When you're on a good thing, stick to it."

The CA18DE conversions are quite a bit more involved, & expensive, yet offer a lot of performance once it is properly done. They are really impressive when showing off the engine bay, but have the potential to get the less experienced driver into a great deal of drama if not carefull.
This is probably the best way to bring a 30 year old chassis into the new century, but it won't be quick, easy, or cheap.

So Stevo & Feral seem to have it covered fairly well. An "A" series for a mild streeter, the CA for something quite serious, but i would suggest that for those on a modest, to medium budget, the L18, & possibly the L20b, has a lot to offer, including a readily available engine at a very modest cost. Proven reliability, with the potential to develop good strong street power, & the bonus of a relatively simple conversion. This engine sort of fits in the middle for those who want strong street performance, & don't have the budget for top end race development. Even Feral runs a "L16" in his streeter Sunny coupe. At least, that's what i says on the cam cover

What do you think, [yes,..you] does this simplify the overall situation, or complicate it?


Posted on: 2004/11/9 5:46
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     A Series? L Series? or CA? PVG070 2004/11/7 10:16
       Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? who_your_datty_1200 2004/11/7 10:23
       Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? Freak 2004/11/7 10:24
         Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? PVG070 2004/11/7 10:34
           Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? Freak 2004/11/7 10:38
             Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? Freak 2004/11/7 10:42
             Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? PVG070 2004/11/7 10:47
               Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? mikali 2004/11/7 22:32
                 Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? pro-240c 2004/11/8 0:30
                   Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? mikali 2004/11/8 0:36
                     Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? pro-240c 2004/11/8 1:02
                   Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? realmutherphukeng 2004/11/8 3:44
                     Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? pro-240c 2004/11/8 5:15
                     Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? L18_B110 2004/11/8 5:18
                       Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? Reeves 2004/11/8 6:15
                         Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? ddgonzal 2004/11/8 6:40
                           Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? Iori 2004/11/8 8:19
                             Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? Dodgeman 2004/11/8 9:52
                               Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? dattoman_1000 2004/11/8 9:57
                                 Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? Lemonhead 2004/11/8 10:19
                                   Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? Dodgeman 2004/11/8 10:42
                                     Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? steveo 2004/11/8 11:18
                                       Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? feral 2004/11/8 11:37
                                       Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? L18_B110 2004/11/8 12:13
                                         Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? pro-240c 2004/11/8 23:18
                                           Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? GreaseMonky 2004/11/9 2:04
                                             Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? pro-240c 2004/11/9 2:59
                                           Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? nzdatman 2004/11/9 5:46
                                         Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? dazzasute 2004/11/9 2:28
                                           Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? realmutherphukeng 2004/11/9 4:44
                                             Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? pro-240c 2004/11/9 4:51
                                             Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? ddgonzal 2004/11/9 4:52
                                               Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? realmutherphukeng 2004/11/9 5:00
                                               Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? dazzasute 2004/11/9 5:01
                                                 Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? realmutherphukeng 2004/11/9 5:15
                                                   Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? ddgonzal 2004/11/9 5:26
                                                     Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? realmutherphukeng 2004/11/9 5:35
                                                       Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? realmutherphukeng 2004/11/9 6:09
                                                         Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? woodydat 2004/11/9 6:58
                                                         Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? dazzasute 2004/11/9 7:03
                                                           Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? A14force 2004/11/9 8:10
                                                             Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? Freak 2004/11/9 8:38
                                                               Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? woodydat 2004/11/9 8:48
                                                                 Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? Dodgeman 2004/11/9 9:02
                                                                   Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? woodydat 2004/11/9 9:12
                                                                     Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? Reeves 2004/11/9 9:25
                                                                       Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? who_your_datty_1200 2004/11/9 9:43
                                                                       Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? Dodgeman 2004/11/9 12:55
                                                               Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? Iori 2004/11/9 8:54
                                                   Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? Dodgeman 2004/11/9 5:46
                                                     Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? nzdatman 2004/11/9 5:58
                                                       Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? Freak 2004/11/9 6:06
                                                     Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? PVG070 2004/11/9 11:44
                                                       Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? B120dat 2004/11/9 12:57
                                                         Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? phunkdoktaspok 2004/11/9 13:32
                                                           Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? ddgonzal 2004/11/9 17:34
                                                             Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? sikdatto1200 2004/11/10 3:20
                                                               Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? L18_B110 2004/11/10 4:29
                                                                 Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? dazzasute 2004/11/10 5:22
                                                                   Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? pro-240c 2004/11/10 6:57
                                                                     Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? pro-240c 2004/11/10 7:44
                                                                       Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? L18_B110 2004/11/10 8:13
                                                                         Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? datsik 2004/11/10 10:51
                                                                           Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? Team_Dat 2004/12/6 8:06
                                                 Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? Reeves 2004/11/9 5:42
                       Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? pro-240c 2004/11/8 8:46
                         Re: A Series? L Series? or CA? Lemonhead 2004/11/8 9:08




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