im with you on the car salesmen.. i considered trading my dunnydore ute for a brand new proton ute.

had a look at the one in the showroom... it had a 2003 biuld date (this was in 2005).. i said why 03 build date... he says theyre all like that.. i say where have they been for the last two years.. he says "actually i really dont know"

anyway i ask what do u get for $18,000
basically... a single cam four cylinder, drum rear brakes, no abs, no airbag, not even a ute tarp.. and its 2 years old!

he offered me $11,000 trade in on my ute...

i sold it 3 weeks later for $15,000 no reg