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Re: reaching 100+ HP in a 1000 coupe?
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)
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yes phunkdoktaspok, there's more to laptimes than power, obviously. But when a 150rwbhp 1000 is visibly slower than a 108rwbhp 1200 in a straight line (both of them use production gearboxes with no fancy ratios), and the laptimes back up the fact that its slower, it tends to indicate that it doesn't in fact have as much power as claimed. And there's other similarly developed A series powered 1200's up here such as Adam's and Brendon Pingel's that also developed similar power to Craig's car and are also faster than the Vixen powered cars. And given that Vixen has been involved with the factory Datsun race team and really knows his stuff, if would be fair to assume that they also have these other factors covered off, phunkdoktaspok. I've seen thier 1000 in action and can tell you its strength is its handling, not its power. Its cornering speed is good, and it never does anything nasty. Looks nice and nuetral and responsive on the track.

Freak, I only compared those times for the sake of correcting bert's statements. At the time I was always dicing with the leaders of the 2001-3000 and over 3001cc classes. And more interested to see how I was going against the big sport sedans and sports cars on their slicks.

And as for the fairness of the comparison, I'd say you're right, its not fair to compare my car to one that weighs well over 100kg less (probably over 150kg less) with more bhp. It would have a massive advantage. If it were true, that is.

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The GREAT DEBATE, 200BHP or NOT? WHY NOT?

simple mate. Volumetric Efficiency, Brake Mean Effective Pressure (BMEP), and 35 years of people playing with these engines all show that it is not realistically achievable. Go dig up the other threads where it has been discussed for starters.

Posted on: 2005/11/15 13:07
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     reaching 100+ HP in a 1000 coupe? maztec 2005/11/14 11:40
       Re: reaching 100+ HP in a 1000 coupe? sidedraught 2005/11/14 12:10
         Re: reaching 100+ HP in a 1000 coupe? bert 2005/11/14 22:01
         Re: reaching 100+ HP in a 1000 coupe? L18_B110 2005/11/15 2:30
           Re: reaching 100+ HP in a 1000 coupe? matbighat 2005/11/15 2:58
             Re: reaching 100+ HP in a 1000 coupe? vixen 2005/11/15 3:17
           Re: reaching 100+ HP in a 1000 coupe? pager 2005/11/15 2:58
             Re: reaching 100+ HP in a 1000 coupe? matbighat 2005/11/15 3:06
           Re: reaching 100+ HP in a 1000 coupe? AdamBDA 2005/11/15 3:13
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               Re: reaching 100+ HP in a 1000 coupe? Freak 2005/11/15 12:13
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                 Re: reaching 100+ HP in a 1000 coupe? L18_B110 2005/11/15 13:07
                   Re: reaching 100+ HP in a 1000 coupe? Freak 2005/11/15 13:32
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                         Re: reaching 100+ HP in a 1000 coupe? maztec 2005/11/16 0:10
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             Re: reaching 100+ HP in a 1000 coupe? pager 2005/11/15 5:01
               Re: reaching 100+ HP in a 1000 coupe? L18_B110 2005/11/15 5:09
                 Re: reaching 100+ HP in a 1000 coupe? R-fastmotorsport 2005/11/15 5:16
                   Re: reaching 100+ HP in a 1000 coupe? L18_B110 2005/11/15 5:24
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