No sour grapes mate just wondering how an A12 can go so well thats all. Headwork seems to be the key does he still run the stock cam?? Im just trying to imagine how a 1200cc engine will flow enough air to make that kind of power with that kind of boost level. It obviously does but just getting my head around it. As for turbo price Im not ####ing stupid !! Ive been around cars long enough to know what works and what costs what. Second hand BB S15 turbos go for around $500-$700 and new Gt28s around the $1000-$1200 I used to run one on my old stocker Ca18 and made 170rwkw @15psi $10K is all up including engine build injection, turbo engine management CDI tuning ect ect How much do you think he has spent on his A12?? On a side note does he plan an taking it down the quarter?? with that power and lite weight she should be good for high 11's Cheers Andrew