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Re: vacuum from turbo?
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)
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Its gonna be interesting how many of these turbo A series will end up running with some of the unexperienced advice i always read being given.

The stock location on the carbie is the correct position to pick up a vacuum signal for the dissy - regardless of boxed carbie or boost referenced. During various engine opereating loads, if this position is not giving a vacuum signal - the dissy does not require it.

Now when it comes to ignition RETARD being required on boosted engines - This is bullcrap. Retarding the timing is a means of limiting boost, yes to prevent detonation. Wastegate preload tension is another way.
How does Retarding the timing reduce boost?
Well the less advanced the ignition timing is before TDC the less exhaust gas volume will be produced. Less exhaust gas volume = less exhaust gas flow through the turbine housing (exhaust side of turbo) This meaning less inlet air is compressed = reduced boost level preventing detonation.

Now if for what ever god unknown reason you can not control the detonation buy reducing boost by means of wastegate preload tension.
You regraph the dissy to limit its total mechanical advance, so then it can not advance to a degree point before TDC where detonation is developing. (Note : Ignition timing is still Advanced BTDC and is not Retarded ATDC)

From experience we (friends and I) years ago now, ran a number of blowthrough A series and one remained a stock points dissy and ignition timing was advanced to the point that it was hard for the engine to crank over to start. At times running boost levels higher than the 30psi guage could read. The engine ran on premium unleaded and it never showed audible sounds of detination during winter.

You can buy your aftermarket electronic boost retard modules if you like. Im sure you will get a hectik sticker in the packet.

Posted on: 2007/8/7 3:44
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     vacuum from turbo? frankthedolphintrainer 2007/8/6 2:35
       Re: vacuum from turbo? PIGDOG 2007/8/6 2:37
         Re: vacuum from turbo? frankthedolphintrainer 2007/8/6 2:40
           Re: vacuum from turbo? WhiteSedan 2007/8/6 2:47
           Re: vacuum from turbo? steveo 2007/8/6 2:51
             Re: vacuum from turbo? reuby_tuesday 2007/8/6 4:25
       Re: vacuum from turbo? ddgonzal 2007/8/6 17:21
         Re: vacuum from turbo? LittleFireyOne 2007/8/6 23:56
           Re: vacuum from turbo? Dodgeman 2007/8/7 2:02
             Re: vacuum from turbo? phunkdoktaspok 2007/8/7 3:44
               Re: vacuum from turbo? B210sleeper 2007/8/7 8:56
                 Re: vacuum from turbo? phunkdoktaspok 2007/8/8 2:33
                   Re: vacuum from turbo? PIGDOG 2007/8/8 2:49
                     Re: vacuum from turbo? sikdatto1200 2007/8/8 22:12
                       Re: vacuum from turbo? phunkdoktaspok 2007/8/8 22:42
                         Re: vacuum from turbo? sikdatto1200 2007/8/8 23:00
                           Re: vacuum from turbo? BeastofBurden 2007/8/9 11:40
                             Re: vacuum from turbo? B210sleeper 2007/8/9 11:57
                             Re: vacuum from turbo? phunkdoktaspok 2007/8/9 21:33
                               Re: vacuum from turbo? BeastofBurden 2007/8/10 16:12
                                 Re: vacuum from turbo? phunkdoktaspok 2007/8/10 17:42
                                 Re: vacuum from turbo? sundat1200 2007/8/10 19:50
                                   Re: vacuum from turbo? phunkdoktaspok 2007/8/11 0:23
                                     Re: vacuum from turbo? A14force 2007/8/11 9:18
                                       Re: vacuum from turbo? phunkdoktaspok 2007/8/11 13:25
                                       Re: vacuum from turbo? BeastofBurden 2007/8/11 13:27
                                         Re: vacuum from turbo? phunkdoktaspok 2007/8/11 13:43
                                           Re: vacuum from turbo? A14force 2007/8/12 16:56
                                             Re: vacuum from turbo? phunkdoktaspok 2007/8/12 20:56
                                               Re: vacuum from turbo? BeastofBurden 2007/8/13 0:22
                                                 Re: vacuum from turbo? PIGDOG 2007/8/13 0:43
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                                                     Re: vacuum from turbo? A14force 2007/8/13 17:16
                                                       Re: vacuum from turbo? frankthedolphintrainer 2007/8/13 18:53
                                                 Re: vacuum from turbo? phunkdoktaspok 2007/8/13 21:14




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