Hey there ian,

Mate, i used to care about this sort of stuff. I studied landscape management and convervation at university for four years which was all about working out ways to manage human activity to minimise impact on the environment.

It encompassed all this type of stuff and i hate to be the bearer of bad news but all that study left me disillusioned.

Humans are doomed to destroy the earth, any way you look at it!!!

Wether we fix the oil issue or not, ther are thousands of other ways in which we are screwing this planet and the way our disgraceful political and economic systems work means that we are just delaying the inevitable.

I know it is a sadsack doom and gloom view but for years at uni, and even before that at school, i studied and thought about such issues and mate it's just the way it is, human beings will not survice another 500 years by my reckoning.

But don't worry, it won't be the death of the planet, it will survive, it's just us humans that are screwed. The planet will continue and life will continue but just without us.

So all the surfers have decided to do as everclear says and "swim out past the breakers, and watch the world die". So i am gonna combine that with "jumping in my datto and watching the world die as i fly!!!"



Trav