Bert, Chris and Paul, thank you for your advice, every little suggestion came in useful and I am happy to say the little beastie stops like a real car should. I was actually quite surprised how much difference 4 corners stopping as versus only the front 2 makes, we went out on a quiet stretch of road yesterday and did some panic stops with only the front drums operational (these have been adjusted and bled from the start but I was ignorant on the back adjustments), then we put it back up on the stands and checked cleaned adjusted everything as advised and hey presto the darned thing stops u beaut.

In all the time I have been playing with cars I had no idea about radius grinding the shoes to the drums (although we did not need it in this instance) so a quick call to Kent Brake and Clutch (where we bought the M/C) brought me up to speed on that.

Chris your instructions took all the guesswork out of the equation, u dont write workshop manuals do you?

Paul, what a gem of a suggestion, still wondering how many more years it would have taken me to work that out on my own, scary thought.

Thanks again - John