Thanks,That makes sense,I'll flatten the top tomorrow and see if that helps. I've been playing with the brakes on one of my Pommy s%%tboxes for most of today. The ute was 2 owner the origonal was a lady in Dubbo had an electrical appliance business. Then the couple in Cobar I bought it from thru ebay. Had a canopy on it and if the dude who's after one gets back to me I'd be interested in trading it for............ some wheels ? weber downdraft ? A14 or 15 ?extractors ? WHY ?