but yeah to give an idea of the cost involved in building an engine, my 95rwkw (127rwhp) L18 stroker cost someone over $7000 to build a couple of years ago, and theres an L20b on ozdat at the moment with 97rwkw that cost over $10000 to build and to get the same power from a 1.5 litre engine as opposed to a 2 litre would make it a fair bit more expensive i would imagine even my brothers mild 308 fully rebuilt bottom end has cost him a couple of grand at mates rates