Krudd had some great ideas and did quite a bit for Australia but it is politics remember! He sort of failed at the business of pleasing everyone enough to get his policies streaming through. it was only a few months ago that he was the most popular (according to opinion polls) PM ever!

God help us all if the libs get back in. Abbott has the same conservative ideology as howard but with a 1/4 of the political talent. it would be like going back to the dark ages with a dumber pm

Why are people so afraid of refugees? they don't cruise over on a plane wanting a holiday! i smell a few southern cross tattoo'd nationalist rednecks...

i'm putting it out there... Gillard may do us some good :)