Unfamilia if your quoting me about the need for a bar in a sedan you misread my reply it says in a wagon or coupe. There are vehicles/Trucks 4WD's on the road these days that will destroy any car Datsun, Mercedes, Lexus, Chrysler, Mazda, Etc..... It can be unsafe to push a baby in a pram down the footpath. The moral to the story is abide by the rules of your Motor Registry and Use common sense the rest is Just Life.