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jmac wrote:
On wet surfaces - I'll have to beg to differ. wider is _not_ always better. The problem is that the wider the tyre, the greater the volume of water it has to shift out of the way, and the further it has to shift it, so the tyre can grip. So once you go beyond a certain width (and it's a lot narrower than what would be 'useful' on a dry tyre overall) the tyre will actually be MORE likely to aquaplane.
You also have to look at the unsprung weight. That can (admittedly) be an advantage in some places, not always, but it's possible. It also depends on how much of an excess of power there is. I remember a website did a very tongue in cheek 'before and after' writeup where they kept modifying things on a car, a stock low-performance import of some description, and ran it down the 1/4mile. One of the first things they did was to remove the big diameter bling wheels and tyres and re-fit the stockers, and despite the stockers being less grippy, the motor just wasn't that powerful (it was running 18 seconds or so iirc) and they improved the time by a few tenths just with the stock wheels/tyres.
Back on the original topic though - when I mentioned suspension setup being vital, it is possible to get a good combination that is reasonable off the line and also through corners. And it _is_ possible (if the suspension geometry/particulars happen to cross over a certain point) to actually be too low for cornering to be optimal.
Last but not least - you could also look at (relatively simple) stuff like having different boost/timing curves that are switchable based on what gear you are in. In some drag racing, they have different timing curves for each gear, not so much as traction control (which is the way I'm suggesting it for helping traction) but rather the fact that the engine is cooler off the line, so more timing is safe/desirable, but toward the end of the 1/4mile with heat soak, chamber and piston surface temps are higher and less timing is both more optimal for power, but also necessary to avoid engine damage.
I think you took that statement to a bit extreme. Im not saying at all that bigger is always better and yes you are correct eventually too big of a tire will slow down your ride IF AND ONLY IF you didnt need them to begin with. whats the point of slapping on a 275 if you car has full traction at 225. but if your cars only get traction with 275 then it would be optimal to run it.
and in regards to wet surface. I dont know squat about f1 cars or what not but its not something I want to use for comparison since its way to much power and way to wide tires.
im basically saying on your average tire I would rather have 255 tires on the rain vs 215 or 195. were talking streets.
this is what im talking about and dont forget were still talking datsun 1200 here so I dont see anyone putting 275 all around on this thing.