Hy Will,ya ,I got the message from Stirlingmac,Guacamolis is,probably,going to sell his used tires,so if posible,I would like to get the used ones,set the proper wheel size for them,(I have 13X8,perhaps the 235's will be better off in a 13X9 or 13X10.) I will get the tires from Stirlingmac too,but that might take longer,defenately I want the new ones. I have (co ownership with my Brothe) a ute,so I am planing to get tires for both.My budget is not that great,so guacamobiles tires are good too. Cheers JAime