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Yes the thread is "Nissan Heritage Collection - Sunny TS Cup specs" which also means 30 year old tech that makes many wonder not just myself but as Feral did also in a conversation, what could have been if the A series was continuously developed without restrictions. Its no dream just adoration.
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Also I am not comparing carbed to efi "alone" that is your tunnel vision interpretation once again. Yet by now Im not surprised you cant accept that an A series with todays tech cannot make more hp compared to what was done 30 years ago. I had this conversation with Feral on the same subject of the Sunny TS Cup cars, nothing off subject just adoration again for the Marque and general interest. He believed it was possible.
So possible that in 40yrs it has never been done. Until it has been done, it is nothing but dreamers' imaginary adoration & nonsense. BTW PitRoad are still building those engines to this day. But you know better than the guys who have been building them continously for 40yrs, sitting there at your keyboard telling everybody how to make more power and "improve the area under the curve"
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On the carb vs efi you just stated, a carb no matter the size cannot match the fuel delivery/accuracy of todays efi which makes more torque under the curve definitely way more important than max hp.
which is another way of agreeing that it won't make any more peak power. These things are operating with peak torque and peak power as close as 800rpm apart FFS eg Pitroad's 162hp @ 9100RPM, 96 lb-ft @ 8300RPM - they are already optimising the area under the curve for peak power. That couldn't be more clear. EFI doesn't improve peak torque either btw. That's another well established principle, nothing to argue about or question.
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The dubious figure you labelled A12grunt for the 170hp at 8000rpm he posted, Do you know if its a later incarnation eg. an improved later build where they found some extra power with improved flow, pistons and or combustion chamber design or even a sprint build/tune for shorter tracks just for getting pole position? or is it a misprint or error? Did they use the same dyno? different fuel for that year/race/series/sponsor leaving more room for higher compression? why not just say its a confusing figure just in case or do you have concrete information to disprove it?
read what I said, and then go and reasearch the priciples you don't understand. Specific torque is a well established measure, and the notion you have that it is possible to get damn near 20% gain in specific torque over those other examples is simply laughable. There is a wealth of information on the subject available to you on the net, there is no need to question it here in this thread.
PLEASE keep opinions and hijacking out of here and do some research to see that this is not possible rather than filling up the thread with white noise.
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