hey 1200rc,

What I'm saying with comparing the weights is, are all the figures actually comparable? Some of the figures may have been obtained as just a bare block, whereas some, like the one i gave you for a 12A, was the weight of a complete motor, ready to run, and had some oil and water in it (ie. it had just been taken out of a car).

Just trying to tell you that there is no point in comparing the figures if there is variables thrown in.

It seems to me, the figures are for a bare, dry engine, in which case the 12A weighs in at around 50kg less than that.

And to clear the air I was complaining not about the weights of anything but about the fact that I was trying to help by giving you some engine ideas and the figures that I could for them (which admittedly were not extensive), and I just got shot down for it.