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B10 ,b110, 1000 serie's 1200 serie's
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Here's what dato
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Should know about the ride under their bum's.



1967 the new style front grill (seven bar all pressed steel)
New grill new stlye .....latest....... it made the wee car look older sexier ....the style was a hit The same style remained until 1970's


model's avalible .....
1000 cc two door sedan ,,,wagon,,,utility.
1200cc four door sedan,,, two door coupe,,,utility
DATSUN 1000 ,1200
SERIE'S B 10 , B 110
1967 TO 1969

Come with automatic tranmission
2. three speed manaul gear box (colum)
3. four speed manual tran's (some had the colum arrangment )
rest had floor arrangemnt ..
A 10 was the motor used in the earlist model's (988cc) displacement over head valve .....
other wize known as the 1000.....8.5:1 compression rated from factory 56 horse power
the stroke was 59 mm (meaning the travel of the piston drive's up and down the piston bore) inside the cyclinder block.

Datsun factory put the
hitachi DCG 286 twin barrel carby.

The fuel pump coofed up a mild
0.16 kgs (2.28 psi) of delivery preasure
the oil in the catchment area called the sump ..surported
3.58 litre's of S A E 30 GRADE

Front suspenion was made up with a huge ugly upside down leaf spring
major hasle to service or repair it best left to a block (chick) know's what's the G......O
What the fine print is all about

The rear had leaf also
better arangement easy to service (also had helper spring) to surport incase of over loading was optional extra plus cost......
More avalible in the after market than from the factory floor

Braking system was made up with...
.one cyclinder master unit.
drum brake's all round
front to back
273 cm in dia
differtail they had a couple to choose from ratio's started at
4.1111:1 in the sedan's and
4.375:1 in the station sedan (ute coupe)
later added the ratio's of 3.900:1
(datsun part) 3.950:1
(HUNTING FOR THE DONNER VEHICLE)

Fuel tank's are in the size of
SEDAN 35 litre's
station wagon ,van, ute 30 litre's



Ater the new A 12 was fitted same motor just re machined to greater displacement (1171cc)
known as the 1200 ....9.0:1 68 horse power
the stroke was 70 mm this measurement is found (only when comparing the connecting rod's length) between 1000 to the 1200
1000 size was116.98 117.30 mm
1200 size was 121.48 121.54 mm

DATSUN factory fitted the same carby just revised (fingered with it )
made few noticable difference's

Huge performance difference

renamed it the DCG 306
Really added a power valve to second throat for better High speed operation
the fuel pump look's the same but not to be fooled the 1200 has little bit more drive preasure at 0.18 kgs (2.56 psi)

A must if you are upgrading the motor (greater displacement)
Need's more fuel gotta go quika no question's
This was made availble through mechanical pump's ...bolt to the block ....or
(eletriic mean's) placedment reckmended according per manifacture's instruction's


The amount of oil in the engine sump was quite strange one would of thought bigger motor more oil ...It has less oil a mild 3.24 litre with the oil filter full ... the grade oil was chossin mainly by condition's the vehicle's had to operate in
cold (extreem) S A E 30 ( Recommended)
extreem heat and dust even the a mount of use it would have (distance's) long travel's

The under body was fingered about too
for the better
new disc drake's on the market
also added the twin master cyclinder drum brake rear 273 cm dia
sweet wittle disc"s on the front
212.5 mm wide and a mild 9.5 mm thick STOPPED Them fine
Fuel was in the size's of
sedan 40 litre's
coupe van ute station wagon 38 litre's


Old school front upside down suspenion (leaf spring) was scrapped and replaced with the very clever coil over strut design
....made it possible for every day spanner hand's able to replace fix WITH OUT THE HUGE MUNGREL BIT'S OF MACHINARY in the work shop's


this also was a hit and stayed in datsun's (NISSAN) engineering book....





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or has I got it screwed up






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I dont know what you are attempting to do " WITH OUT THE HUGE MUNGREL BIT'S OF MACHINARY", but I can get my front leaves out in about 10 minutes.

And as for this comment "Front suspenion was made up with a huge ugly upside down leaf spring" I think beauty is in the eyes of the beholder,and if you are in love with the pogo stick design thats great, personally I am a proud Datsun 1000 owner and dont care much for it.

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Brakes are actually 203mm drums on both models

Coupe had a tandem circuit master cylinder. All others used single in the 1000 range.

A12 is 5 brg cranck not 3 brg like the A10 so they are technically a different engine. Not an overbored A10

I like 1000 suspension. Handles like a gokart.Pogo sticks are not necessarily a better design
They are cheaper and easier to produce however.



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Hey if I found a 1000 I'd drive it... that is of course if I could fit in it! as I am 6'1...

as suspension designs go I prefer the Mcpherson strut front end of tha 1200 (B110/B120/B140, 120Y(B210) and Sunny (B310) but the 1000's front suspension would allow things that the B110-B310 wouldn't like "acres" of space aound the engine due to no strut towers (A12-A15 at least...)

but I'd drive one if I had to!!

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Head clearance isnt really a problem...im almost 6'1 and clear the roof with almost 2 inches to spare. Then again, I have a different seat, and dont know how much that effects things.

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mynute289 wrote:
KEEP YOU'S POSTED WHEN I LEARN MORE

Is I donin fine so far fella's, or has I got it screwed up

I tend to think that you had better learn a LOT more, particularly about front suspension design, before you go calling it any names.

The 1200 engine was a MAJOR revision on the A10, not just "the same motor remachined to greater displacement"
It used a whole new [taller] block which now had five mains & provision for PCV
It had a new crank, new rods, new block, new inlet manifold & new [but interchangeable] pistons, so I guess that is more than just re-machining.

The real advantage of pogo stick suspension was the cost to manufacture. It is a perfectly good design that was also cheap, while the wishbone dedsign has its own merits & this basic suspension design, which I first saw on 1934 model Mopars, is still used in the highest performance cars today.

The transverse leaf spring in the 1000 was a huge advantage over coils in such a small space as it allowed more suspension travel than coils would have, & with a softer ride too. As for servicing, I think that we can remove that leaf spring more quickly than you can remove the two front springs in the later models & with a lot less drama too.
Damn they were clever those Datsun engineers. The only thing that really killed it was cost, which is a BIG thing in a car that was sold on price, along with its obvious features & merits.

As for the other stuff, keep reading those workshop & owners manuals.
Didn't you say something about being a mechanic who worked on Datsun/ Nissan cars over the last 20 or so years? Please clarify where I got that wrong as i'm sure there must be an error in there somewhere..

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With the 1000 front suspension, caster and camber changes are all easily done with only a spanner.

The worst vehicle of all for tall people is the 1200 ute (you cant move the seats back), and even then its not that bad.

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a 12 was a revised a10 but with noticable difference's being big end cap's as well' as stroke
technically two extra big end mount's ( crank cap's) was added to the mold used in the 1000 model A 10 motor...bring it up to a five big end mounting arrangement...


Was fingered with majorly

cheeper to add bit to the mold than totally re design the whole block


(present motor for example from E 12 motor to the E 15 pulsar donk's

The brake's also had brake fade in the early 1000 because of the non use of the tandem set up or brake booster

beside's was not fitted with booster or twin tadem by pass method because of not discovering the correct delivery system due to the patiet law's on other car's truck's of yester year

the by pass system did not come out til later used in late 69 was designed in 65 66 .....


I get a hard on given it sh@t
Go cart steerin is cool

I have dirrect drive in my B 10 ute A12 serie's motor


(removed all free play from in the steerin box adjusted (shimmed) worm and sector to enhance the effect )... now it's sweeeeeet


NOT RECOMENDED IF NOT TRAINED IN ALLMECHANICAL FEILD'S
OR HAVE LESS THAN TWENTY FIVE YEAR'S DRIVING EXPREINCE....



STILL DON'T TRY IT ......



Just the dude's who pretend to fix the road's ain't to smart on flat surface's the moon has a smoother surface

Speed bump's 25 c m 's appart
speed cam's 1 foot apart
Trafic control light's half a foot apart
Aint many place's to enjoy the sweet little rod's we build

My bum get's sore just thinkin about next three thousand k m drive

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mynute289 wrote:
KEEP YOU'S POSTED WHEN I LEARN MORE

Is I donin fine so far fella's, or has I got it screwed up

I tend to think that you had better learn a LOT more, particularly about front suspension design, before you go calling it any names.

The 1200 engine was a MAJOR revision on the A10, not just "the same motor remachined to greater displacement"
It used a whole new [taller] block which now had five mains & provision for PCV(NOT MENTIONED YET IN MY POST)

The transverse leaf spring in the 1000 was a huge advantage over coils This I will agree on.
Damn they were clever those Datsun engineers. The only thing that really killed it was cost, which is a BIG thing in a car that was sold on price, along with its other merits.

As for the other stuff, keep reading those workshop & owners manuals. HAVE YOU FOUND ONE CAUSE I IS GOING ON THE INFO FROM THE DATTO SPECAILST IN SPEAR WOOD PERTH
Didn't you say something about being a mechanic who worked on Datsun/ Nissan cars over the last 20 or so years? Please clarify where I got that wrong as i'm sure there must be an error in there somewhere..

Going wrong #### If I beleived all the crap I was told about the datsun motor in's and out's wrght"s or wrong's applied it
poor barstard never run again worked on thousand's ford's holden's probly hand ful of dattos'
1 being never broke down
2 shat them selve's altogether
3 owner shot's it and send's it to the wrecker and buy's new car
Or my favorite
4 stored in a shed until people like us find them and worship them
worship them more so than own wedding day

don't make me break out the veina guage
to show all difference's it would even bore you to death
as was stated 1200 diff will fit 1000
hand brake lay diff axle lenth longer
centre's (crown and pion) drive gear were selected for milage as well as just allicated to which ever vehicle
thous giving the run around to find center and tail shaft to suit because mount flange has varation which was not noticed until baught and removed at (home) (work shop)or (side of the road)

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The daam thing

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