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63a #3 - 5 speed dogleg install query
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Hi peoples,

I've been reading your forum for about a week now, hence the registration, I own a 1971 B110 1200 sedan with the A12 motor in it and 4 speed. It's going to be slowly upgraded but only with datsun bits, and is still on it's original plates.

I recently bought a 63a #3 dogleg 5 speed out of a stanza sss 1600, with the goal of (this coming thursday night) installing it in the 1200 sedan.

What I'm asking for is a quick check list of parts that I'll need to have to achieve the change over.

I know that (or think I know)

- the 63a gearbox support strut will be 20mm out so make some adapter plates

- the gearbox output shaft is bigger so I have to swap the one that came with the box onto my existing tailshaft (I just physically checked before posting this)

- the speedo cable will need to be replaced with a longer one

- the clutch plate is possibly going to have to be replaced with one from a stanza, but that's where I have an issue

the stanza clutch plate is 200mm with 25.5 hole with 24 teeth according to the exceedy parts cat - and the B110 is 180mm with 20.5 hole with 18 teeth.

if I replace the plate I'ld therefore have to replace the pressure plate as well etc (get a clutch kit which would include the thrust bearing), but will this larger clutch kit fit up to my flywheel? or do I need to replace that too?

Any and all advice will be greatfully accepted :)

Posted on: 2010/4/13 8:44
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Hi and Welcome,
another issue, the Stanza box is L series and won't bolt up to the A series Block,
and not 100% isn't the L series hydraulic clutch?

I think it might be a bigger task than you first thought,
there is such a beast as 63a A series box but they are very few and far between, 60 series boxes are getting more common, but expensive..

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Re: 63a #3 - 5 speed dogleg install query
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doesnt the dogleg and the "a" after the 63 on the side of the casing mean it will bolt up to a "a" series motor?

This box is cable not hydraulic

I'm going to go for a quick crawl before the light fades

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great question as the ute i just bought has a stanza dogleg in it.
i checked wiki but cant find what c;utch kit is used.

hey lowmion if its easyish do it cus the 1200 will be cruising at 2200rpm at 80kph
........nice

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the next thing I'll be putting in is disc brake front's, but that'll be another week, lol.

But my main concern atm is the gearbox change-over.

My mate has a stanza dogleg 5 speed in his ute, but he can't quite remember what he had to do for the conversion apart from the cross member and the tailshaft.

60 mph @ 2700 rpm = drool :)

Posted on: 2010/4/13 9:01
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wont be an l series bell housing so chances are its not a L series dog leg. might be the rare a series 63 a.

Ive got a L series 63a but its behind an L series in my 1200 sedan- no way will it bolt to a a series without heavy mods to bell housing(a swap of bell housings to be exact- one member has modded an a series auto bell housing to use a L series box behind an a series. not easy thats for sure.)

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the plot thickens........

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what numbers and letters are on the side of your casing unfamilia ?
mine says 63a #3 and then #3 on the other side of the seam line, the case is a "smooth case"

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any clutch joint will be able to make the plate you need, its just an l series centre with 180mm(from memory) outer diametre. l series standard diameter - 200mm, a series - 180mm. Ot will work with the standard A12 pressure plate.
I bought one a few years ago, the Australian part# is NSD030U and is made by DAIKIN
It was a made to order thing so I dont know if they can still supply them
its OD 180mm
ID 125mm
Splines 24

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63a came in both L and A series versions, if it came in a stanza it will be an L series version. Th "a" in the number means that it is not a revised version of the gearbox, NOT that it is for an a series.

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