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[Datsun 1200 encyclopedia]

258mm Brake Upgrade

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== Rotor == == Rotor ==
 +280ZX USA catalog
 +* 43206-N9501 0981-
 +** superceded 43206-N9502
 +* 43206-P6500 0778-0881
 +** superceded 43206-R4800 0778-0881
 +
The rotors are from 02/1980: The rotors are from 02/1980:
* 1982-1983 S130 (280ZX) * 1982-1983 S130 (280ZX)
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* CENTRIC Part # 12042014/12142014 * CENTRIC Part # 12042014/12142014
* WAGNER Part # BD97313 * WAGNER Part # BD97313
-* BREMBO Part # 08485110 {#25110, 43206R4800}+* BREMBO Part # 08485110 {#25110, 43206-R4800}
 +* BREMBO Part # 08529520 {#25139, 43206-P9601}
* FERODO Part # DDF659 * FERODO Part # DDF659
* BENDIX PRT1181 * BENDIX PRT1181
- +Europe: 02/1980 To 09/1982
-* 258+* Diameter: 258 mm (10.565 inch)
-* Thickness: 10mm+* Height: 47 mm
-* Minimum Thickness: 9mm+* Thickness (nominal): 10 mm
-* Height [mm]: 47+* Thickness (minimum): 9 mm
-* Pitch circle 68+* Hub Reg: 68 mm
- +* Bolt size: M12x1.25 (10.75 mm diameter)
 +* Bolt circle: 4 on 4.5" (114.3 mm)
 +* Weight:
Rear: Rear:
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* Bolt size: M12x1.25 (10.75 mm diameter) * Bolt size: M12x1.25 (10.75 mm diameter)
* Bolt circle: 4 on 4.5" (114.3 mm) * Bolt circle: 4 on 4.5" (114.3 mm)
-* Weight: 10.5 pounds+* Weight: 11 pounds

Revision as of 23:52, 5 March 2011

Upgrade your 1200's brake to large 268 mm (10.565 inch) brakes -- and keep the lightweight 1200 struts! Thanks to mklotz and morrisun for this great idea. The rotors are 280ZX rear disks. The calipers are from 1980s Pulsar and Sentra/Sunny.

Also see: 280ZX Strut Swap for heavier, smaller vented brakes

Contents

Overview

Bolt On Extra-large Brakes for Datsun 1200s -- no fabrication, no welding

  • Lightweight disk rotors
  • keep your lightweight 1200 disk struts
  • fits under 13" aluminum wheels & 14" steel wheels
  • No modifications needed to master cylinder
Will fit under 16 & 17" wheels too
for you new-school fans

Doug Morrisun from Oregon came up with this idea: the lightest, largest brakes that would fit on the stock struts. To keep weight down, his idea was to use a solid rotor. Non-vented. He says that for a light 1200 street vehicle there is no fading.

Remove the 1200 disks from the hub, then put the 1200 hub back on the car.
th_101_3666.jpg

you will need slightly longer wheels studs, from a wreckers or buy them new
th_100_3520.jpg

Slip the new disks over the hub
th_100_4316.jpg

Here's the trick: it needs a caliper spacer/adapter:
th_101_3654.jpg

th_101_3664.jpg

Weight: The 280ZX solids are 10.5 pounds vs. 11 pounds for the vented disks. However, you keep the original 1200 struts and hubs. Hopefully it is lighter...

Alignment: The disks push the wheel mounting face out 1/2" each side, increaseing the Scrub Radius which is not good. But this is less that the 280ZX Strut Swap (hopefully).

Details

280ZX front vented disk, bolts to the 280ZX hub via small bolts, so won't bolt to your 1200 wheel hub:
22880.jpg

280ZX rear solid (non-vented) disk, simply fits over the lug nuts (captured/floating type), and it will fit over the 1200 wheel hub lugs:
22881.jpg


Parts & Specifications

Caliper

The calipers are from:

  • Nissan B11/B12 (Sentra/Sunny)
  • Nissan Pulsar N12/N13

Wreckers are full of these, but re-manufactured are only $21 each at

These are Japan-built models all (Tokico, etc), so Australia PBR-equipped are not the same.

Adapter

mklotz of Datsun NL320 disk retrofit fame is making some sets of the adapters. In fancy colors.


Rotor

280ZX USA catalog

  • 43206-N9501 0981-
    • superceded 43206-N9502
  • 43206-P6500 0778-0881
    • superceded 43206-R4800 0778-0881

The rotors are from 02/1980:

  • 1982-1983 S130 (280ZX)
  • 1982-1988 S110/S12 (200SX)
  • 1982-1984 910 six (Maxima)

These are Japan-built models all, so Australia PBR-equipped are not the same.

Rotors are only $20 each new at http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1209316,parttype,1896

  • AUTOSPECIALTY / KELSEY-HAYES Part # JBR160E/JBR160
  • RAYBESTOS Part # 9225/9225R
  • ACDELCO Part # 18A69
  • BECK/ARNLEY Part # 0831750/0801750
  • CENTRIC Part # 12042014/12142014
  • WAGNER Part # BD97313
  • BREMBO Part # 08485110 {#25110, 43206-R4800}
  • BREMBO Part # 08529520 {#25139, 43206-P9601}
  • FERODO Part # DDF659
  • BENDIX PRT1181

Europe: 02/1980 To 09/1982

  • Diameter: 258 mm (10.565 inch)
  • Height: 47 mm
  • Thickness (nominal): 10 mm
  • Thickness (minimum): 9 mm
  • Hub Reg: 68 mm
  • Bolt size: M12x1.25 (10.75 mm diameter)
  • Bolt circle: 4 on 4.5" (114.3 mm)
  • Weight:

Rear:

  • 268/269 mm (10.565 inch)
  • Height: 68.5 mm
  • Thickness (nominal): 9.6 mm
  • Thickness (minimum): 8.6 mm
  • Hub Reg: 68 mm
  • Bolt size: M12x1.25 (10.75 mm diameter)
  • Bolt circle: 4 on 4.5" (114.3 mm)
  • Weight: 11 pounds