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== VW Golf/Rabbit == | == VW Golf/Rabbit == | ||
+ | '''318 body length / 511 Extended / 352 Collapsed ''' | ||
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+ | * Stroke: 158mm (6.25 in) | ||
+ | * Get Bilstein (1.507 in) or KYB brand at about 1.5 inch outside diameter. Tokico and KONI are too big around to fit 45mm strut housings. | ||
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discussion: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=27290&forum=1&start=20 VW Rabbit inserts] | discussion: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=27290&forum=1&start=20 VW Rabbit inserts] | ||
- | <blockquote>Quote:<hr>The 1200s used the smaller diameter strut tube from the rest of the Datsun model range. From memory its around 45mm compared to the more common 50mm dia. In the past I have used Toyota Starlet (RWD) inserts and for racing VW Golf Mark 1 Koni gas adjustables. Both inserts are shorter and will need a [simple] spacer made to make up the difference in length in the bottom of the tube.<hr></blockquote> | ||
+ | * Golf Mk I insert is nearly 4 inhces shorter than stock and will need a simple spacer made to make up the difference in length in the bottom of the tube. | ||
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+ | * Strut piston diameter is larger than B110, so drill out the strut-nut and the strut top hole. | ||
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+ | Four different Rabbit Bilsteins available: | ||
+ | * stiff "sports" | ||
+ | * softer "heavy duty" | ||
+ | * OE style "touring | ||
+ | * race: 270/100 for rebound/compression | ||
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+ | Bilstein Race & Rallye (gas) | ||
+ | * 1974-1984 Golf/Rabbit | ||
+ | * Strut Part Number V36-0059 (but just buy the inserts) | ||
+ | * 270/100 damping | ||
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+ | == Toyota Starlet (RWD) == | ||
+ | Get them from TRD | ||
== VW Jetta == | == VW Jetta == |
Revision as of 06:36, 19 May 2008
Strut Inserts (shock absorbers) for the front suspension: Datsun 1200 (B110) uses 45 mm diameter strut tubes. Most other Datsuns, including B210, use a larger 50.8 mm size. This article will help you choose custom fitment inserts for any strut you may be using.
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Direct Interchange
Original Nissan Part Numbers
- Datsun 1200s did not come with strut insert cartridges, they had rebuildable strut absorbers.
- Nissan later offered strut inserts specifically for the 1200, they are still available as of May 2008.
Using a factory-quality Strut rebuild kit (rather than removing the factory strut parts and replacing with a new strut 'cartridge' insert) is the way to retain a smooth front-end ride. However, these are no longer manufactured.
Inserts
- Nissan 56105-H5025 about $50 each from Nissan
- T0KICO S1041 (oil), Z1041 (gas)
- Koni 86-1714 (previously 82N-1714, S1003)
- replace 56110-H1026
- KYB (Kayaba) 662002/KC1001 (oil)
- KYB 362001 (gas)
- Replaces B110, B120 Jan 1970-May 1973
- Nissan: 54302-H1025,54302-H1026,54302-H1050,54302-H1055,54302-H1125,54302-H1126,54303-H1055,54303-H1125
- Replaces B210 Mar 1973-Oct 1977
- Nissan: 54302-H5025,54302-H5050,54302-H5126,54303-H5125,54303-H5150,56105-H5025,56105-H5027,56105-H1026
- Replaces VB310 (12" wheel model?)
- 54302-H8500,54302-H8525,54302-H8526,54302-H8527
- Replaces B110, B120 Jan 1970-May 1973
- Monroe Sensa-Trac 73949 $35
- Compressed Length: 17.875"
- Extended Length: 24.250"
- Body Length: 17.375"
- Travel: 6.375"
- AC/Delco gas-charged 50335/88945515 $39
- KYB 364003 GR-2 gas $52
- 1974-1978 B210
- 1979-1982 210
- 1980-1983 200SX
- 1978-1981 510
- AutoTek 181 00-167
45mm OD Strut Inserts
Discussion: strut inserts
Stock
418 body length / 631 Extended / 462 Collapsed
- Stroke: 16.9mm (6.7 in)
Stock Nissan B110 inserts. See Strut
VW Golf/Rabbit
318 body length / 511 Extended / 352 Collapsed
- Stroke: 158mm (6.25 in)
- Get Bilstein (1.507 in) or KYB brand at about 1.5 inch outside diameter. Tokico and KONI are too big around to fit 45mm strut housings.
discussion: VW Rabbit inserts
- Golf Mk I insert is nearly 4 inhces shorter than stock and will need a simple spacer made to make up the difference in length in the bottom of the tube.
- Strut piston diameter is larger than B110, so drill out the strut-nut and the strut top hole.
Four different Rabbit Bilsteins available:
- stiff "sports"
- softer "heavy duty"
- OE style "touring
- race: 270/100 for rebound/compression
Bilstein Race & Rallye (gas)
- 1974-1984 Golf/Rabbit
- Strut Part Number V36-0059 (but just buy the inserts)
- 270/100 damping
Toyota Starlet (RWD)
Get them from TRD
VW Jetta
Jetta inserts -- information on inserts and adapting Koni inserts for VW Jetta so that they fit a 1200.
416 body length/ 599 Extended/ 431 Collapsed,
1200 (B110), 120y (B210)
Gabriel - G44217
Vera - 62-01015
50.8 mm OD Strut Inserts
Most Datsun struts use 51mm (actually 50.8) diameter strut tubes. The insert itself will be 42mm in diameter.
364 Body length/ 555 Extended/ 318 Collapsed, Book reference wrong???
R31 6/86-12/90, Pintara
Gabriel G44946/G44972
Koni Red Specials - 86-2361
362 body length/ 559 extended/ 392 collapsed
Z31 (300ZX) 5/84-85
Gabriel - G44936
357 body length/ 531 extended/ 366 collapsed
Z31 (300ZX) 1/86-89
Gabriel - G44968
Tokico Performance Gas - HZ3100
381 Body Length/ 543 Extended/ 398 Collapsed
240/260/280z (S30),Gazelle
from chassis#30-060001 strut tube size is increased inside and outside, some inserts will fit both but leading manufacturers are model specific.
non model specific
Mulholland - 2351501
Gabriel - G44869
Monroe US Made - 86361
up to chassis#30-060000
Koni Red Specials - 86-1811
Tokico HP Series - HZ3015
KYB GR2 Gas - 361002
Tokico Illumina 5-Way Adjustable - BZ3015
from chassis#30-060001
Tokico HP Series - HZ3012
KYB GR2 Gas - 361003
Tokico Illumina 5-Way Adjustable - BZ3012
403 Body length/ 575 Extended/ 415 Collapsed
200b (810 L24E) 10/77-81, 240K (C110) 73-79, Skyline C210 3/78-80, R30 3/81-86, 200SX 77-79, 1600 (P510) 8/71-73
Gabriel - G44856/G44900
Vera - 62-00976
Koni Red Specials - 86-2224
410mm (415mm if including gland nut) 340mm travel
1600 (P510) 68-8/69, 180b (P610) 72-77
Monroe - MC962,
Gabriel - G44864
437mm Body Length
Stanza/Violet (H510) 77-81, Sunny (B310) 78-81, 200SX 80-83
Monroe - MC949,
Gabriel - G44752
Vera - 62-00570
KYB GR2 Gas - 364003
??????? Not sized yet
1600 (P510) 9/69-7/71
Monroe - MC926
Gabriel - G44865
?????? Not sized yet
280ZX (S130) 78-83, Bluebird 80-83, Maxima (910) 82-84
Tokico Illumina - BZ3038,
Tokico Illumina 5-Way Adjustable - TOBZ3038
Tokico Performance Gas - HZ3038
Gabriel - G44977
KYB GR2 Gas - 365013
Measurements
Strut Housing
- Outside Diameter: 45mm (1.77 in)
Nissan 56105-H5025 for Datsun B110
- Body length: 41.8mm (16-3/8 inch). The seal protrudes 1/8 past this.
- diameter: main housing - 37.6mm (1.48 in)
- diameter: upper collar at top of housing - 40.9mm (1.61 in)
- shaft dia. 17.8mm (1.7 in)
- thread height - 24mm
- thread diameter - M10 (10mm hole, 11 mm threads)
- Overall collapsed - 46.2mm (18-3/16 in.)
- Overall extended - 63.1mm (24-13/16 in.)
- Stroke: 16.9mm (6.7 in)
Original B110 Strut valving Damping Force @ 0.3m/sec:
- Expansion kg(lb): 48 (106)
- Compression kg(lb): 22 (48.5)
Stroke
- B310 strut valve: 164 mm (6.46 in)
- B310 cartridge: 161.5
- B310 cartridge: 160.5 A12A Canada (12" wheels)
Damping rates are same for B310 valve or insert, but stroke differs slightly.
Damping Force
model | B110 1970-1973 disc | B210 1974-1977 A13/A14 | B210 1978 A14 | B310 1979 | B310 80-82 | B310 12" |
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expansion: kg | 48 | 32-48 | 28-42 | 30-40 | 28-42 | 38-58 |
compression: kg | 22 | 20-30 | 16-24 | 17-23 | 16-24 | 15.5-24.5 |