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	Most Datsun struts use 2 inch (50.8mm) diameter strut tubes. The insert itself will usually be 1-5/8 inch (41.3mm) diameter and thus too big for 45 mm struts, although some are 1.5" (38mm) and so will also fit in 45 mm Struts.		Most Datsun struts use 2 inch (50.8mm) diameter strut tubes. The insert itself will usually be 1-5/8 inch (41.3mm) diameter and thus too big for 45 mm struts, although some are 1.5" (38mm) and so will also fit in 45 mm Struts.
		+	== HB210 ==
		+	A14-powered [[B210]] uses 2" struts.
-	Nissan	+	Nissan
-	* 56105-N8425 B210	+	* 56105-N8425 B210
-	** superceded 56105-H5925	+	* superceded 56105-H5925
-	** B210 with A14	+	** B210 with A14
-	** B210 with A12 1977-1978	+	** B210 with A12 1977-1978
-		+	Aftermarket
-	Aftermarket	+	* Monroe Sensa-Trac 73949 [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1210813,parttype,7596,partGroup,27 $35]
-	* Monroe Sensa-Trac 73949 [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1210813,parttype,7596,partGroup,27 $35]	+	** Compressed Length: 17.875"
-	** Compressed Length: 17.875"	+	** Extended Length: 24.250"
-	** Extended Length: 24.250"	+	** Body Length: 17.375"
-	** Body Length: 17.375"	+	** Travel: 6.375"
-	** Travel: 6.375"	+
-	* AC/Delco gas-charged 50335/88945515 [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1210813,parttype,7596,partGroup,27 $39]	+	* AC/Delco gas-charged 50335/88945515 [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1210813,parttype,7596,partGroup,27 $39]
-		+	* KYB 364003 GR-2 gas [http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=KYB&MfrPartNumber=364003&PartType=49&PTSet=A $52]
-	* KYB 364003 GR-2 gas [http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=KYB&MfrPartNumber=364003&PartType=49&PTSet=A $52]	+	** 1974-1978 B210
-	** 1974-1978 B210	+	** 1979-1982 210
-	** 1979-1982 210	+	** 1980-1983 200SX
-	** 1980-1983 200SX	+	** 1978-1981 510
-	** 1978-1981 510	+	* AutoTek 181 00-167
-		+
-	* AutoTek 181 00-167	+
-		+
-		+
-		+
-		+
-	== KONI ==	+
-	* From the [[1984 Nissan Competition Catalog]]	+
-	** 99996-1912R B210/FRONT KONI SHOCK ABSORBER	+
-	*** KONI 86-1912	+
-	** B310 Nissan 99996-2002P 210/FRONT KONI SHOCK ABSORBER	+
-	*** KONI 86-2002	+
-	** B310 Nissan 99996-2002T 210/FRONT (SPORT) KONI SHOCK ABSORBER	+
-	*** KONI 86-2002	+
-		+
-	== Inserts ==	+
-	'''356 Body length'''	+
-		+
-	''1978-1983 280zx TURBO/NON TURBO''	+
-		+
-		+
-		+
-	'''364 Body length/ 555 Extended/ 318 Collapsed, Book reference wrong???'''	+
-		+
-	''R31 6/86-12/90, Pintara''	+
-		+
-	Gabriel G44946/G44972	+
-		+
-	Koni Red Specials - 86-2361	+
-		+
-		+
-		+
-	'''362 body length/ 559 extended/ 392 collapsed'''	+
-		+
-	''Z31 (300ZX) 5/84-85''	+
-		+
-	Gabriel - G44936	+
-		+
-		+
-		+
-	'''357 body length/ 531 extended/ 366 collapsed'''	+
-		+
-	''Z31 (300ZX) 1/86-89''	+
-		+
-	Gabriel - G44968	+
-		+
-	Tokico Performance Gas - HZ3100	+
-		+
-		+
-		+
-	'''381 Body Length/ 543 Extended/ 398 Collapsed'''	+
-		+
-	''240/260/280z (S30),Gazelle	+
-		+
-	'''from chassis#30-060001 strut tube size is increased inside and outside, some inserts will fit both but leading manufacturers are model specific.'''''	+
-		+
-		+
-	''non model specific''	+
-		+
-	Mulholland - 2351501	+
-		+
-	Gabriel - G44869	+
-		+
-	Monroe US Made - 86361	+
-		+
-		+
-	''up to chassis#30-060000''	+
-		+
-	Koni Red Specials - 86-1811	+
-		+
-	Tokico HP Series - HZ3015	+
-		+
-	KYB GR2 Gas - 361002	+
-		+
-	Tokico Illumina 5-Way Adjustable - BZ3015	+
-		+
-		+
-	''from chassis#30-060001''	+
-		+
-	Tokico HP Series - HZ3012	+
-		+
-	KYB GR2 Gas - 361003	+
-		+
-	Tokico Illumina 5-Way Adjustable - BZ3012	+
-		+
-		+
-		+
-	'''403 Body length/ 575 Extended/ 415 Collapsed'''	+
-		+
-	''200b (810 L24E) 10/77-81, 240K (C110) 73-79, Skyline C210 3/78-80,	+
-	R30 3/81-86, 200SX 77-79, 1600 (P510) 8/71-73''	+
-		+
-	Gabriel - G44856/G44900	+
-		+
-	Vera - 62-00976	+
-		+
-	Koni Red Specials - 86-2224	+
-		+
-		+
-		+
-	'''410mm (415mm if including gland nut) 340mm travel'''	+
-		+
-	''1600 (P510) 68-8/69, 180b (P610) 72-77''	+
-		+
-	Monroe - MC962,	+
-		+
-	Gabriel - G44864	+
-		+
-		+
-		+
-	'''437mm Body Length'''	+
-		+
-	''Stanza/Violet (H510) 77-81, Sunny (B310) 78-81, 200SX 80-83''	+
-		+
-	Monroe - MC949,	+
-		+
-	Gabriel - G44752	+
-	Vera - 62-00570	+	KONI
		+	From the [[1984 Nissan Competition Catalog]]
		+	* 99996-1912R B210/FRONT KONI SHOCK ABSORBER
		+	** KONI 86-1912
		+	** B310 Nissan 99996-2002P 210/FRONT KONI SHOCK ABSORBER
		+	** KONI 86-2002
		+	** B310 Nissan 99996-2002T 210/FRONT (SPORT) KONI SHOCK ABSORBER
		+	** KONI 86-2002
-	KYB GR2 Gas - 364003	+	== Lowering ==
		+	A Datsun 1200 uses 418mm long strut inserts. If lowered more than two inches (50mm) the strut tubes should be shortened accordingly and shorter-than-stock inserts chosen. There are not many short inserts for the stock 1200 struts.
		+	The good news is there are many short inserts available for 2" struts.
		+	[[Shortening_struts#Choosing_A_Short_Shock_Insert|Stock]] specs
		+	* 418mm insert body
		+	* Length Collapsed: 462mm
		+	* 169mm stroke
-	'''??????? Not sized yet'''	+	2" shortened struts need:
		+	* 367mm or shorter insert body
		+	* 412mm or shorter collapsed length
-	''1600 (P510) 9/69-7/71''	+	Many inserts can be used. 280ZX inserts are the traditional choice but limit the suspension travel. The 300ZX inserts are a better choice as they have a full stroke (close to the travel of a stock 1200). Inserts shorter than the tube will fit if you use a spacer in the bottom of the strut tube, for example a short length of 1.5" exhaust tubing topped by a large washer.
-	Monroe - MC926	+	== Inserts by Length ==
		+	'''356 Body length'''
		+	1979-1983 280ZX TURBO/NON TURBO
		+	Gabriel G44869 [http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/nissan,1982,280zx,2.8l+l6,1209350,suspension,shock+absorber,7556?a=Referer+datsun1200.com+URL+%2Fen%2Fcatalog%2Fnissan%2C1977%2Cb210%2C1.4l%2Bl4%2C1210813 $29 Rockauto]
		+	* Extended Length 21.36" 543mm
		+	* Collapsed Length 15.65" 398mm
		+	* Stroke 5.71" 145mm
-	Gabriel - G44865	+	'''364 Body length/ 555 Extended/ 318 Collapsed, Book reference wrong???'''
		+	''R31 6/86-12/90, Pintara''
		+	Gabriel G44946/G44972
		+	Koni Red Specials - 86-2361
		+	'''362 body length/ 559 extended/ 392 collapsed'''
		+	1985 Nissan 300ZX (Z31)
		+	BILSTEIN 34-002643
		+	Gabriel G44936 [http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/nissan,1985,300zx,3.0l+v6,1209530,suspension,shock+absorber,7556 $15 Rockauto]
		+	* Extended Length 21.06" 535mm
		+	* Collapsed Length 14.69" 373mm
		+	* Stroke 6.37" 162mm
		+	'''357 body length/ 531 extended/ 366 collapsed'''
		+	''Z31 (300ZX) 1/86-89'' [http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/nissan,1989,300zx,3.0l+v6,1209653,suspension,shock+absorber,7556 Rockauto]
		+	Monroe 73229 356 body length/524 extended/ 368 collapsed
		+	Gabriel - G44968
		+	* Extended Length 20.91" 531mm
		+	* Collapsed Length 14.41" 366mm
		+	* Stroke 6.5" 165mm
		+	Tokico Performance Gas - HZ3100
-	'''?????? Not sized yet'''	+	'''381 Body Length/ 543 Extended/ 398 Collapsed'''
		+	''240/260/280z (S30),Gazelle
		+	from chassis#30-060001 strut tube size is increased inside and outside,
		+	some inserts will fit both but others are chassis-specific
		+	* ''fits all S30''
		+	Mulholland - 2351501
		+	Gabriel G44869 [http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/nissan,1978,280z,2.8l+l6,1209260,suspension,shock+absorber,7556?a=Referer+datsun1200.com+URL+%2Fen%2Fcatalog%2Fnissan%2C1989%2C300zx%2C3.0l%2Bv6%2C1209653%2Csuspension%2Cshock%2Babsorber%2C7556 $32 Rockauto]
		+	* Extended Length 21.36" 543mm
		+	* Collapsed Length 15.65" 398mm
		+	* Stroke 5.71" 145mm
		+	Monroe US Made - 86361
		+	* ''up to chassis#30-060000''
		+	Koni Red Specials - 86-1811
		+	Tokico HP Series - HZ3015
		+	KYB GR2 Gas - 361002
		+	Tokico Illumina 5-Way Adjustable - BZ3015
		+	* ''from chassis#30-060001''
		+	Tokico HP Series - HZ3012
		+	KYB GR2 Gas - 361003
		+	Tokico Illumina 5-Way Adjustable - BZ3012
-	''280ZX (S130) 78-83, Bluebird 80-83, Maxima (910) 82-84''	+	'''403 Body length/ 575 Extended/ 415 Collapsed'''
		+	''200b (810 L24E) 10/77-81, 240K (C110) 73-79, Skyline C210 3/78-80,
		+	R30 3/81-86, 200SX 77-79, 1600 (P510) 8/71-73''
		+	Gabriel - G44856/G44900
		+	Vera - 62-00976
		+	Koni Red Specials - 86-2224
-	Tokico Illumina - BZ3038,	+	'''410mm (415mm if including gland nut) 340mm travel'''
		+	''1600 (P510) 68-8/69, 180b (P610) 72-77''
		+	Monroe - MC962,
		+	Gabriel - G44864
-	Tokico Illumina 5-Way Adjustable - TOBZ3038	+	'''437mm Body Length'''
		+	''Stanza/Violet/510 (A10) 77-81, Sunny (B310) 78-81, 200SX 80-83''
		+	Monroe - MC949,
		+	Gabriel - G44752
		+	Vera - 62-00570
		+	KYB GR2 Gas - 364003 442mm body[https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/nissan,1980,510,2.0l+l4,1210026,suspension,strut,7584 Rockauto $26]
		+	* upper mount 12x1.25
-	Tokico Performance Gas - HZ3038	+	'''441mm Body Length'''
		+	''[[#HB210]]''
-	Gabriel - G44977	+	'''??????? Not sized yet'''
		+	''1600 (P510) 9/69-7/71''
		+	Monroe MC926
		+	Gabriel G44865
-	KYB GR2 Gas - 365013	+	'''381mm Body Length''' 145-171mm stroke, 587mm extended, 409mm compressed
		+	''280ZX (S130) 78-83, Bluebird 80-83, Maxima (910) 82-84''
		+	Tokico Illumina - BZ3038,
		+	Tokico Illumina 5-Way Adjustable - TOBZ3038
		+	Tokico Performance Gas - HZ3038
		+	Gabriel G44977
		+	KYB GR2 Gas - 365013 [https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/nissan,1980,280zx,2.8l+l6,1209316,suspension,strut,7584 $31]
		+	* top mount 12x1.25
	= GM Holden Commodore =		= GM Holden Commodore =
-	You [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4494?&com_id=30709 can use] Commodore inserts (VB to VP) which are a little tight and 1/2 inch shorter.	+	You [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4494?&com_id=30709 can use] Commodore inserts (VB to VP) which are a little tight and 1/2 inch shorter than 1200 inserts.
	Monroe 25-3632		Monroe 25-3632
Line 194:		Line 161:
	Shaft diameter: 22mm		Shaft diameter: 22mm
	Body diameter: 43mm		Body diameter: 43mm
-	[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26178 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/26178.jpg]	+	{{ThumbH|26178}} {{ThumbH|26179}} {{ThumbH|26180}} {{ThumbH|26181}} {{ThumbH|26182}} {{ThumbH|26183}} {{ThumbH|26185}} {{ThumbH|26186}}
-	[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26179 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/26179.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26180 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/26180.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26181 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/26181.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26182 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/26182.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26183 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/26183.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26185 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/26185.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26186 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/26186.jpg]	+
	The Commodore Gland nut does not fit the Datsun strut body. The Datsun nut will not fit over the 22mm shaft.		The Commodore Gland nut does not fit the Datsun strut body. The Datsun nut will not fit over the 22mm shaft.
-	<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/26184.jpg</img> [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26184 album]	+	<br>{{Album|26184}}
	[[Category:Front Axle And Front Suspension]]		[[Category:Front Axle And Front Suspension]]
	[[Category:Suspension Modifications]]		[[Category:Suspension Modifications]]

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Current revision

HB210 and most Datsuns other than B110 use a 2.0 inch (50.8 mm) strut size. This article will help you choose parts for rebuild or replacement. For 1200 struts, see 45 mm Strut Inserts.

Contents 1 2" OD Strut Inserts 1.1 HB210 1.2 Lowering 1.3 Inserts by Length 2 GM Holden Commodore

2" OD Strut Inserts

Most Datsun struts use 2 inch (50.8mm) diameter strut tubes. The insert itself will usually be 1-5/8 inch (41.3mm) diameter and thus too big for 45 mm struts, although some are 1.5" (38mm) and so will also fit in 45 mm Struts.

HB210

A14-powered B210 uses 2" struts.

Nissan
* 56105-N8425 B210
  * superceded 56105-H5925
** B210 with A14
** B210 with A12 1977-1978

Aftermarket
* Monroe Sensa-Trac 73949 $35
** Compressed Length: 17.875"
** Extended Length: 24.250"
** Body Length: 17.375"
** Travel: 6.375"

* AC/Delco gas-charged 50335/88945515 $39
* KYB 364003 GR-2 gas $52
  ** 1974-1978 B210
  ** 1979-1982 210
  ** 1980-1983 200SX
  ** 1978-1981 510
* AutoTek 181 00-167

KONI
From the 1984 Nissan Competition Catalog
* 99996-1912R B210/FRONT KONI SHOCK ABSORBER
** KONI 86-1912
   ** B310 Nissan 99996-2002P 210/FRONT KONI SHOCK ABSORBER
   ** KONI 86-2002
   ** B310 Nissan 99996-2002T 210/FRONT (SPORT) KONI SHOCK ABSORBER 
** KONI 86-2002

Lowering

A Datsun 1200 uses 418mm long strut inserts. If lowered more than two inches (50mm) the strut tubes should be shortened accordingly and shorter-than-stock inserts chosen. There are not many short inserts for the stock 1200 struts.

The good news is there are many short inserts available for 2" struts.

Stock specs
* 418mm insert body
* Length Collapsed: 462mm
* 169mm stroke

2" shortened struts need:
* 367mm or shorter insert body
* 412mm or shorter collapsed length

Many inserts can be used. 280ZX inserts are the traditional choice but limit the suspension travel. The 300ZX inserts are a better choice as they have a full stroke (close to the travel of a stock 1200). Inserts shorter than the tube will fit if you use a spacer in the bottom of the strut tube, for example a short length of 1.5" exhaust tubing topped by a large washer.

Inserts by Length

356 Body length
1979-1983 280ZX TURBO/NON TURBO
Gabriel G44869 $29 Rockauto
* Extended Length  21.36" 543mm
* Collapsed Length 15.65" 398mm
* Stroke            5.71" 145mm

364 Body length/ 555 Extended/ 318 Collapsed, Book reference wrong???
R31 6/86-12/90, Pintara
Gabriel G44946/G44972
Koni Red Specials - 86-2361

362 body length/ 559 extended/ 392 collapsed
1985 Nissan 300ZX (Z31)
BILSTEIN 34-002643
Gabriel G44936 $15 Rockauto
* Extended Length  21.06" 535mm
* Collapsed Length 14.69" 373mm
* Stroke            6.37" 162mm

357 body length/ 531 extended/ 366 collapsed
Z31 (300ZX) 1/86-89 Rockauto
Monroe 73229 356 body length/524 extended/ 368 collapsed
Gabriel - G44968 
* Extended Length  20.91" 531mm
* Collapsed Length 14.41" 366mm
* Stroke            6.5"  165mm
Tokico Performance Gas - HZ3100

381 Body Length/ 543 Extended/ 398 Collapsed
240/260/280z (S30),Gazelle
from chassis#30-060001 strut tube size is increased inside and outside,
some inserts will fit both but others are chassis-specific
* fits all S30
  Mulholland - 2351501
  Gabriel G44869 $32 Rockauto
  * Extended Length  21.36" 543mm
  * Collapsed Length 15.65" 398mm 
  * Stroke            5.71" 145mm
  Monroe US Made - 86361
* up to chassis#30-060000
  Koni Red Specials - 86-1811
  Tokico HP Series - HZ3015
  KYB GR2 Gas - 361002
  Tokico Illumina 5-Way Adjustable - BZ3015
* from chassis#30-060001
  Tokico HP Series - HZ3012
  KYB GR2 Gas - 361003
  Tokico Illumina 5-Way Adjustable - BZ3012

403 Body length/ 575 Extended/ 415 Collapsed 
200b (810 L24E) 10/77-81, 240K (C110) 73-79, Skyline C210 3/78-80,
R30 3/81-86, 200SX 77-79, 1600 (P510) 8/71-73
Gabriel - G44856/G44900
Vera - 62-00976
Koni Red Specials - 86-2224

410mm (415mm if including gland nut) 340mm travel
1600 (P510) 68-8/69, 180b (P610) 72-77
Monroe - MC962,
Gabriel - G44864

437mm Body Length
Stanza/Violet/510 (A10) 77-81, Sunny (B310) 78-81, 200SX 80-83
Monroe - MC949,
Gabriel - G44752
Vera - 62-00570
KYB GR2 Gas - 364003 442mm bodyRockauto $26
* upper mount 12x1.25

441mm Body Length
#HB210

??????? Not sized yet
1600 (P510) 9/69-7/71
Monroe MC926
Gabriel G44865

381mm Body Length 145-171mm stroke, 587mm extended, 409mm compressed
280ZX (S130) 78-83, Bluebird 80-83, Maxima (910) 82-84
Tokico Illumina - BZ3038,
Tokico Illumina 5-Way Adjustable - TOBZ3038
Tokico Performance Gas - HZ3038
Gabriel G44977
KYB GR2 Gas - 365013 $31
* top mount 12x1.25

GM Holden Commodore

You can use Commodore inserts (VB to VP) which are a little tight and 1/2 inch shorter than 1200 inserts.

Monroe 25-3632
* Commodore    1978-1993 VB,VC,VH,VK,VL,VN,VP
* Caprice      1990-1994 VQ including Statesman
* Toyota Lexen 1989-1993
* Type T6
* Body length:      405  mm (13 mm shorter than stock)
* Length Extended:  599  mm
* Length Compressed:405  mm
* Greater stroke than 1200 shocks
* Body Diameter: 44.5 mm ?
* Nut 110-039-037
* Ring 137-A61-007 

KYB #365007 Excel-G to suit GM Commodore 1978-1993
End shaft diameter: 14mm
Shaft diameter: 22mm
Body diameter: 43mm

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The Commodore Gland nut does not fit the Datsun strut body. The Datsun nut will not fit over the 22mm shaft.
Album 26184

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