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| lholly |
Posted: 2013/4/3 13:32 Updated: 2013/4/3 13:32 |
Just popping in   Joined: 2013/4/3 From: colyton Posts: 2 |
 Re: Excellent PB210 in Aust just commenting on re: excellent pb210 in australia
the car is actually in sydney in my garage after it was bought from taren point and my husband used to work with coxy and blairy we have had the car about 20years it is a bit rustier and older than steve remembers. also the big bore motor is now running in a datsun 1600
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Posted: 2010/3/22 21:53 Updated: 2010/3/22 21:53 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2002/7/19 From: sydney australia Posts: 1858 |
 Re: Excellent PB210 in Aust Good looking car, If only my mate would let me repaint his 120Y in these colours. I think the reason that most cars were re-exported within a year was that at that time you had 12 months to pay any imports taxes & duties, so to avoid this most cars went back overseas. The other way around it was to do an event in another country, like New Zealand, because you could claim the car had been exported for sale but the sale fell through, & you then had another 12 months before you had to pay the fees. I was told by Arthur Jackson, a NSW rally competitor, that in the mid 70's he built an L series powered 120Y for the NSW rally championship, but found it was very unpredictable in it's handling, so he built another 1600 instead.
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Posted: 2010/3/20 12:49 Updated: 2010/3/20 12:49 |
Home away from home   Joined: 2010/3/20 From: Sydney Australia Posts: 238 |
 Re: Excellent PB210 in Aust Only 1 car came in from Japan for the 1977 Southern Cross rally,that car was driven by Sheka Mehta the Kenyan works driver. The car then languished in canberra in the workshop of Gerry Ball tuning who gained ownership as part payment for running Greg Carr in a Nissan(Then Datsun) support role in both the Australian Championship and the Southern Cross Rally. The car then passed on to ex works driver Geoff Portman who used the head to build a 2.4 litre LZ based engine for his Bluebird project. The car was then bought by myself and Steven Blair as a complete rolling shell with flares intact in original works colours. I supplied works vented disks and 4 spot calipers a works H190 LSD as that was missing(27 spline axles) normal H190 used either 25 or 30 spline axles,when sold it was fitted with a big bore 90.5mm L20 B engine fitted with an FIA group 2 cylinder head and 48mm dcoe webers,anyone claiming to have owned this car will have been aware that the Factory restamped the chassis number and the original numbers were overwritten with a Nissan style logo stamp. The car was sold in sydney and then passed on to one of the members of Brindabella Motorsport club in Canberra,the only relevant post I have read so far is the part about it now being in Victoria with a member of the Historic Rally Club down there. If we are going to post about something with Historic Signifigance please be accurate. Regards Steve
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Posted: 2010/3/23 10:31 Updated: 2010/3/23 10:31 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2002/6/14 From: Sydney Posts: 2598 |
 Re: Excellent PB210 in Aust Quote: "The car was then bought by myself and Steven Blair as a complete rolling shell with flares intact in original works colours."
That wouldn't be Steve Cox, from the "Rally Prep" days at Taren Point. If so, good to hear you are still about and interested in the Datsun game. I run into Steve Blair every now and then on the road, but no so much recently. The one car I do remember quite well was the Bluebird with the Z-18, it was quite the machine.
cheers benny
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Posted: 2010/3/25 1:58 Updated: 2025/11/1 12:25 |
Quite a regular   Joined: 2003/7/30 From: Posts: 51 |
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Posted: 2010/7/11 12:34 Updated: 2010/7/11 12:34 |
Home away from home   Joined: 2006/4/20 From: melbourne Posts: 426 |
 Re: Excellent PB210 in Aust Hi Steve and Dave
I have a big interest in rally cars and especially the history of this 120y as a couple of years back the current owner thought about selling it and then decided to keep it. The only thing i am confused about is that Steve story re the car seems to end with Dave buying it yet Dave you seem to be positive that it isn't Mehta's car ?
Steve what is the tell tale signs of whether this car is really your old car as i would like to have a closer look at it at the next rally
cheers
Joe (melbourne)
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Posted: 2011/4/15 13:17 Updated: 2025/11/1 12:25 |
Quite a regular   Joined: 2003/7/30 From: Posts: 51 |
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Posted: 2013/4/3 13:35 Updated: 2013/4/3 13:35 |
Just popping in   Joined: 2013/4/3 From: colyton Posts: 2 |
 Re: Excellent PB210 in Aust steve we have the car at home it had rally prep signage all over it and it was last tuned by arthur at sefton about 15years ago
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Posted: 2013/4/4 13:39 Updated: 2013/4/4 13:39 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2002/6/14 From: Sydney Posts: 2598 |
 Re: Excellent PB210 in Aust I know of a LZ14 in Aus that would be just the ticket in this car.
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Posted: 2003/8/12 10:44 Updated: 2025/11/1 12:22 |
Quite a regular   Joined: 2003/7/30 From: Posts: 51 |
 Re: Excellent PB210 in Aust I have enough parts to build another complete car, and I could probably get stuff out of South Africa if needed, but that wiould take a while.
They were released in SA as the 140Y, in a few different versions, the bottom of the line, the SDX, had the Excellent nose and 120Y tail lights, running the A14. The 140Y GX was identical in every respect to the Excellents, the 140Z and 160Z were the same as the Excellents but had different Carbies, namely Dellorto’s, twin 40’s I think
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Posted: 2003/8/1 5:00 Updated: 2003/8/1 5:00 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2001/8/2 From: Posts: 1354 |
 Re: Excellent PB210 in Aust Cool, I never saw a sunny excelent (PB210) in sedan, is it have also round tail lights? Any more pixes? Nice ride. 
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Posted: 2003/8/9 23:46 Updated: 2003/8/9 23:46 |
Quite a regular   Joined: 2003/7/30 From: Posts: 51 |
 Re: Excellent PB210 in Aust Nope, it doesn't have the round lights, some of the South african ones did, I'll post a brochure of the rear lights soon
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Posted: 2003/8/10 2:04 Updated: 2003/8/10 2:04 |
Home away from home   Joined: 2003/2/11 From: Christchurch, New Zealand Posts: 312 |
 Re: Excellent PB210 in Aust nice, first time ive seen a pb210 sedan as well. what engine does it have in it?
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Posted: 2003/8/11 11:34 Updated: 2003/8/11 11:34 |
Quite a regular   Joined: 2003/7/30 From: Posts: 51 |
 Re: Excellent PB210 in Aust This ones an L-14 stroked and bored to 2L.
Standard they came with all the same options as the coupes in Japan
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Posted: 2003/8/11 21:58 Updated: 2003/8/11 21:58 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2001/8/2 From: Posts: 1354 |
 Re: Excellent PB210 in Aust How did you get it to Australia, because it was not sold there, right? . Is there panels(body) available for the PB that you know? I would like to get the front apron, hood, as to install a front grille , to make a B210 become a PB210. I love both cars, I like my B210, but can always get onother B210 and transform it, I want to do that, I will, first, I got to collect the parts needed. Nice car, I like it. Jaime. ______________________________
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Posted: 2004/10/10 22:13 Updated: 2004/10/10 22:13 |
Moderator   Joined: 2001/5/3 From: Kent, WA Posts: 31852 Online! |
 Re: Executive HB210 GTQ in Portugal Hi Americo,
Nice B210. Did you buy it from Davie, or is it one of the other two race cars?
Is yours an Excellent (originally equipped with L14 or L16 engine)?
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| DatsunSSS |
Posted: 2004/10/11 0:07 Updated: 2004/10/11 0:07 |
Home away from home   Joined: 2003/2/14 From: Portugal Posts: 472 |
 Re: Executive HB210 GTQ in Portugal Hi These car came from south africa to portugal. and he is an datsun 140y executive. http://www.megagaleria.com/pictures/Pic_1469_5.jpgand he is equiped with an A14s. But i
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Posted: 2007/2/14 2:15 Updated: 2007/2/14 2:15 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2001/1/30 From: California Posts: 2973 |
 Re: Executive HB210 GTQ in Portugal yes it's all starting to make sense to me:
this is a southern cross rally car but imported from south africa not japan?
the portuguese have some connection to south africa, that's why there miraculously seems to be a couple kgb210 coupes in portugal
btw, the tail lights on this car would not be six "circles" but rather the bizarre "multi-rectangles" as befitting the l-series equipped sedans both in japan and za
btw2, the za l-series equipped models are not marketed as "excellent" like the jdm models
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Posted: 2007/2/16 13:20 Updated: 2007/2/16 13:20 |
Quite a regular   Joined: 2003/7/30 From: Posts: 51 |
 Re: Executive HB210 GTQ in Portugal The car in the photo is a japanese import to Australia,though I no longer own it. It now lives in the Australian state of Victoria, where it has been fully restored by the new owner. It is still used in historic events.
The car was one of three brought to Australia for the Southern Cross Rallies of 1975 and 1976.
B 210 is a 1200 A series engine HB210 the H denotes A-series 1400 engine PB 210 the P denotes L-series engine
KHB 210 is the coupe with an A-series 1400 KPB 210 is the coupe version of the L-series
HB(L) 210 A-14 L/H Drive PB(L) 210 L-14 L/H drive
GB 210 L-16 R/H drive
I'm not sure if their like were rallied in Portugal, but the three brought here were built to do the Southern Cross events, the car in the photo is the las one left. One was destroyed during the 1976 event, the other 2 remained here in the hands of Nissan Australia where they were campaigned for a further 12 months, after that they were supposed to go back to Japan, but for some reason they didn't. I lost the trail of the 3rd car, Sheka Mehta's 1976 car, in 1991 and have been unable to find it since, I have to assume it has been destroyed.
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Posted: 2007/2/16 14:30 Updated: 2007/2/16 14:30 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2001/1/30 From: California Posts: 2973 |
 Re: Executive HB210 GTQ in Portugal right. that makes more sense that the southern cross rally cars came from japan not za
the violet sss 710's may have also come to oz in the same manner
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Posted: 2007/2/16 16:32 Updated: 2007/2/16 16:32 |
Quite a regular   Joined: 2003/7/30 From: Posts: 51 |
 Re: Executive HB210 GTQ in Portugal Yes as with the PB210's the P710's were never released in Australia. I do know of a few private imports, but not many. Most of the 710's brought out to do the Southern Cross were left here for one season then shipped back to Japan.
Remember that the Group 4 homologation of the 710 had Independant Rear Suspension.
Oh yeah the Grp 4 versions of the P 710's and PB 210's were rallied with LZ engines, the twin cam L series that was originally developed for the PB110 L14.
The LZ14 had something around 260bhp, but the gear chain that drove the cams was week. By the mid 1980's these engines were being used in Formula Pacific race cars, and demand outstripped supply. It was the reason that I was trying to find the 1976 Grp 4 car, but I did manage to find out that the head went to Indonesia on top of a 2.4 bottom end. The rest of the car was still being rallied here until the late 1980's and was sold off in 1991. I missed it by several weeks.
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Posted: 2007/2/17 0:40 Updated: 2007/2/17 0:40 |
Moderator   Joined: 2001/5/3 From: Kent, WA Posts: 31852 Online! |
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Posted: 2025/9/6 23:58 Updated: 2025/9/7 0:02 |
Moderator   Joined: 2001/5/3 From: Kent, WA Posts: 31852 Online! |
 Re: Excellent PB210 in Aust jaimecidpedro asked: Quote: Cool, I never saw a sunny excelent (PB210) in sedan, is it have also round tail lights? Only the Coupes had the round tail lightsSedans had these tail lights: Davie's photo

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