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A14 crank "before."
Dodgeman 2004/7/14 14:19 Tell a friend
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This crank will be modified for use in an A12 block during the next week or so. I will post an "after" picture for comparison when i get it back. Plans call for oiling mods as per factory recomendations. |
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Dodgeman |
Posted: 2004/7/13 13:27 Updated: 2004/7/13 13:27 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2003/6/27 From: Southern Tablelands N.S.W. Australia Posts: 8287 |
 Re: A14 crank "before" Another chance to compare the crank pictures.
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Dodgeman |
Posted: 2004/6/10 13:45 Updated: 2004/6/10 13:45 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2003/6/27 From: Southern Tablelands N.S.W. Australia Posts: 8287 |
 Re: A14 crank "before" For those contemplating this conversion, stay tuned & i will try to provide a pictorial guide as i go along. The wheel on the monitor is one from my 1000 sedan, pictured in front of the same monitor [visible behind the wheel]
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phunkdoktaspok |
Posted: 2004/6/10 13:59 Updated: 2004/6/10 13:59 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2002/9/23 From: Posts: 2809 |
 Re: A14 crank "before" Are you just doing this so you can keep the early a12 so the engine mounts will look original?
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Dodgeman |
Posted: 2004/6/10 14:26 Updated: 2004/6/10 14:26 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2003/6/27 From: Southern Tablelands N.S.W. Australia Posts: 8287 |
 Re: A14 crank "before" Yes, that is one of the reasons.
I have a perfectly good [rebuildable] 1200 GX engine & it fits the chassis without any mods, so why not use it. At my age, i have had my fill of blinding acceleration & dazzling speed. All i need is a car that starts easily, every time, sounds good, runs quite well, & posts a respectable point to point time. That takes a balance of components, not impressive power outputs.
This engine will look for all intents & purposes like a factory instalation, it will pass as a 1200, but will run just a bit better, with an emphasis on torque over horsepressure. The GX carb setup is a surprisingly well sorted design for regular street use, & it fits under the bonnet without problems or alteration.
So, yes, because it fits without mods, & because i have one. Waste not, want not. Besides, "Q ship" is a forgotten "old school" trick.
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b310gx |
Posted: 2004/6/11 10:49 Updated: 2004/6/11 10:49 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2002/7/19 From: sydney australia Posts: 1858 |
 Re: A14 crank "before" d-man,one trick taught to me years ago by an engine builder friend was to peen in the plugs for the oil galleries.these are a press fit,& the a15 i was working on at the time had dropped one of these plugs out.this had caused a lack of oil pressure,but fortuneately the engine was stopped straight away,so no bearing damage. just another thing to do during crank preparation,i suppose. 
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Dodgeman |
Posted: 2004/6/11 12:40 Updated: 2004/6/11 12:40 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2003/6/27 From: Southern Tablelands N.S.W. Australia Posts: 8287 |
 Re: A14 crank "before" B310GX Thanks for the tip. If i can, i will tap a thread in these drillings & install some taper thread plugs. I hope to follow the factory info & enlarge the galleries in the crank. Depending on what i find, i may cross drill it too. I also plan to use main bearings that are grooved both top & bottom. You just can't have too much lube "available" to the bearings.
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A14force |
Posted: 2004/6/13 7:10 Updated: 2004/6/13 7:10 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2003/12/3 From: Christchurch NZ Posts: 3707 |
 Re: A14 crank "before" That sticker on your moniter is soooo cool. I'm quite suprised that you don't use that for your signature. And yeah, too much lube is just enough ( ask my g/f) lol
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dazzasute |
Posted: 2004/6/13 8:36 Updated: 2004/6/13 8:36 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2004/3/15 From: Perth Western Australia Posts: 1018 |
 Re: A14 crank "before" Quote: That sticker on your moniter is soooo cool right... so dodgeman, now we know why you don't like chevs 
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120Ynutter |
Posted: 2004/6/13 12:22 Updated: 2004/6/13 12:22 |
Quite a regular   Joined: 2003/1/8 From: Taradale; NZ Posts: 57 |
 Re: A14 crank "before" Dude, before you put this crank back in, why don't you knife edge and polish it. There are many benefits from doing this, such as torque, smoother power, revability, may even make the oil properties last longer, being not not so aerated. Just a thought.
lata :)
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Dodgeman |
Posted: 2004/6/13 12:55 Updated: 2004/6/13 12:55 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2003/6/27 From: Southern Tablelands N.S.W. Australia Posts: 8287 |
 Re: A14 crank "before" A14force I don't use it as a signature because it isn't really Datsun related, & i kinda like the one i use. In my other [Mopar] life, i use the phrase "If it aint Mopar, it's below par" [not under par, which is a diferent thing completely]
Dazzasute The Chevrolet division make an extremely popular, & perfectly servicable range of cars & engines. These are so popular that they have become widely known as "bellybutton" motors. [everyone has one] It's hard to be individual with one of these.
If i was to be a GM fan, i would have joined the tribe of "Chief Many Horses" [Pontiac] as they produce a range of cars & powerplants that could arguably be claimed to be a good runner up to my beloved Dodges.
My Dodge hemi was built at a time when engineering came first, & nobody in the industry has, or could, seriously claim that any other automaker put more quality of design & manufacture into their engines than Chrysler corp did in this time frame. The third generation of Dodge hemi is still in production, 50 years after the first one, it's that good.
120Ynutter I won't be knife edging this crank as this is a street engine, which will be red lined at a paltry 6,000 rpm or so & it simply isn't justified, but they sure look nice. The extra rotating mass of a stock crank is of more benefit in a street engine, while the knife edge crank is just the ticket in a race engine with a rev limit that is approaching near twice this figure. Besides,... have you priced this kind of work? Yeeee ouch. As long as the crank keeps out of the oil, there should be no problems with "windage", & in a street engine, this is not normally a problem.
Chris
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A14force |
Posted: 2004/7/15 7:22 Updated: 2004/7/15 7:22 |
No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)   Joined: 2003/12/3 From: Christchurch NZ Posts: 3707 |
 Re: A14 crank "before" What you say is very true Chris. Chrysler's level of engineering is a cut above the rest. Just compare the front pulleys of a 350, or a 308 with the front pulleys of a chrysler V8 while they are running. The Mopar ones spin as true as can be, the other stuff wobbles around like the wheels on a clown car. Wait a minute, if it's not a Mopar, (or a datto) then it IS a clown car!!!!!!!lol
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