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Factory Datsun Rotary Engine Prototype vehicle
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Translation: Under the bonnet of this Excellent is the rotary engine used to advance the development of NISSAN's new rotary, which is based on technology from the NSU Wankel corporation. The swept volume displacement is 2 rotors of 500cc each. Reportedly it used intake ports of the peripheral type.

From J's Tipo No. 13 "Sunny Special Edition"

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naman
Posted: 2006/3/24 11:27  Updated: 2006/3/24 11:27
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 Re: Factory Datsun Rotary Engine Prototype vehicle
Why just prototype.. did'nt produce it? how about the horsepower..?

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dattodude
Posted: 2006/3/24 12:26  Updated: 2006/3/24 12:26
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If anyone ever finds one of these let me know. I really want a Nissan Rotary!

It could be my charity case...

No Mazda crossbreeds

Ohhh Yeah!

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D
Posted: 2006/3/24 13:18  Updated: 2006/3/24 13:18
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 Re: Factory Datsun Rotary Engine Prototype vehicle
Its a tacky and daggy effort from nissan.
The 1200 in large numbers with the twin cam would have been the best.

For rotary engine vehicles the early mazdas such as R100 and Rx3 where some of the best styled of any Japanese cars.
The designers used the Savanah (desert landscape) and used the inhabitants (reptiles) for inspiration. Hence the Mazda rotaries look like evil reptilian cannibals ready to devour anything in their path. They did until the oil crisis made them into handbags well very expensive ones too. Original rotor Mazdas command high prices.
The R100 placed in the top 5 at Le Mans versus exotic custom machinery.
Rohan Ambrose has every outright track record in Victoria. Banned in Bathurst completely after been made to run Bridgeports and never allowed to run Peripheral ports. Banned at Le Mans for being too reliable compared to Jags, Audis,Porsche and other exotic brands with custom made v10 and other high tech one off engineering the Mazda rotary still creates fear in all the racing world.
The 1200 only raced corollas and other fruits like cherries .
For Mazdas effort in offering and trying something different to other car makes they killed themselves and now they answer to Ford just like Nissan does to Renault thanx to making cars in the eighties and nineties blander than their role model Toyota and unreliable.
Prince still operating within Nissan since Nissans takeover made Nissan save face with the Skyline and their ballsy engineering imput into the GtiR.
If you look at Renaults racing history its lucky Nissan has been adopted by the big frog.
Nissan and Renault are for me = Nissault

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D
Posted: 2006/3/24 13:25  Updated: 2006/3/24 13:25
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Quote:
No Mazda crossbreeds


THe nissan rotor was based on the nsu which usually seized up after a sunday drive.
Only mazda solved the problems NSU had and so did the light aircraft rotary engine manufacturers which are thriving today.

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naman
Posted: 2006/3/24 16:56  Updated: 2006/3/24 16:56
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 Re: Factory Datsun Rotary Engine Prototype vehicle
Sorry.. i'm bad in english.. did this means there're no production to the market.. ?

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Posted: 2006/3/24 22:26  Updated: 2006/3/24 22:26
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Quote:
Sorry.. i'm bad in english.. did this means there're no production to the market.. ?

Exactly, no production to the market.

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Dodgeman
Posted: 2006/3/24 23:41  Updated: 2006/3/24 23:41
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I think that even MadTimo might agree that Nissan did the right thing [business wise] by not continuing with the Rotary project.

This engine design was at the beginning of it's development &, as Mazda found out, it quite understandably had problems. It's competitor, the reciprocating piston engine, had an 80 year development head start that the rotary wasn't going to catch up on overnight. This was going to take a little time & a LOT of money.

If Nissan, & maybe even some others, had continued on with production rotary engined models, they would have all been selling to roughly the same number of people who were prepared to spend their money on a new & essentially untried technology, so the financial return to each manufacturer would have been less.

As it turned out, Mazda became effectively the sole player in the field [NSU excepted] so they captured pretty much all of the money that was to be spent on these early rotary powered cars & even then the development of this engine became a VERY serious financial burden.

Nissan would have found itself draining funds to solve the very same development problems that Mazda faced & it's a testament to Mazda that they persevered with the Rotary engine & in some 35 years have succeeded in developing it into what it has become today. They made an extremely serious dent in the recip's 80 year head start in a surprisingly short time & they had to do it on their own. I don't think it could have been done any other way

With income [sales] divided between several makes of rotary powered car, I truly believe that the financial return would have meant that none of them would have made it, so it isn't too hard to accept the proposition that Nissans withdrawal from the rotary engine program helped to contribute to the rotary's survival & eventual emergence as a legitimate alternative power plant.

However,.... to misquote from 'Dances with wolves',... "It is not Nissan, so it is less"
Is my one eyed Datsun bias showing?

Nissan went on to use those funds that would have otherwise been diverted into rotary development to create many of those Nissan products that we so much admire today, like SR, CA, & FJ engines along with some of the cars that they came in. Few would dispute that these, along with the range of twin cam variations of our much loved L series, are all extremely good designs.

Nissans decision to discontinue development of the rotary was, in my view, the right decision, & everyone was a winner.

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ddgonzal
Posted: 2006/3/25 0:54  Updated: 2006/3/25 0:54
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The Tech Section article has more details: Rotary-Powered Datsun 1200s.

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MadTimo
Posted: 2006/3/25 3:26  Updated: 2006/3/25 3:26
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Quote:
Dodgeman wrote:
Blah, blah, blah


As has been extensively discussed here

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ddgonzal
Posted: 2006/3/25 3:35  Updated: 2006/3/25 3:35
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 Re: Factory Datsun Rotary Engine Prototype vehicle
Are these the same hubcaps?

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