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	If you get new bearings, keep in mind that inexpensive bearings do wear over time. Datsun used triple alloy bearings which do not wear out, but only if the engine loses oil pressure they will be damaged, or if debris gets into the oil.		If you get new bearings, keep in mind that inexpensive bearings do wear over time. Datsun used triple alloy bearings which do not wear out, but only if the engine loses oil pressure they will be damaged, or if debris gets into the oil.
-	= Measuring Bearing Clearance =	+	= Bearing Knock =
-	Measure Bearing Crush when installing new bearings.	+	If your engine is knocking, you may need new bearings:
-	<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24984 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/24984.jpg]	+	* Rod knock: repetitive double-tapping sound that increases with RPM. May become quiet when delecelerating. Do not confuse it with a cracked exhaust manifold (use a hose to your ear to narrow down the location of the sound)
		+	* Main bearing knock: A dull, heavy knock
-	It is difficult to tell by visual inspection if bearings are worn. It is normal to have some pattern on them.	+	Rule these out first:
		+	* Cracked exhaust manifold cause a tapping sound very much like rod bearing knock
		+	* Engine mount knock -- inspect the mounts
		+	* Exhaust pipe knocking against chassis -- inpect system especially whiling tipping the throttle
-	Direct measurement: The best way to check is to use plastic thread. Buy the Plastigauge (just a couple of dollars) and put it back together. The amount the thread is squished tells how much actual clearance it has.	+	= Measuring Bearing Clearance =
		+	When installing new bearings, Measure Bearing Crush.
		+	<br>{{Album|24984}}
		+
		+	It is difficult to tell by visual inspection if bearings are worn. It is normal to have some pattern on them.
-	Plastigauge see [[wikipedia:Plastigauge|wikipedia article]]	+	Direct measurement: The best way to check is to use plastic thread. Buy the {{wiki|Plastigauge}} (just a couple of dollars) and put it back together. The amount the thread is squished tells how much actual clearance it has.
-	<br>http://i33.tinypic.com/13zr8ya.jpg	+
	Indirect measurement: Measure the journals with a precision micrometer, then calculate the clearance.		Indirect measurement: Measure the journals with a precision micrometer, then calculate the clearance.
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	It is suggested to measure clearance after fitting/refitting bearing shells to confirm actual clearance.		It is suggested to measure clearance after fitting/refitting bearing shells to confirm actual clearance.
-	Datsun Factory Service Manual:	+	Datsun Factory Service Manual uses Plastiguage:
-	<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24982 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/24982.jpg]	+	<br>{{Album|24982}}
	Measuring Main Bearing Clearance		Measuring Main Bearing Clearance
-	<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24983 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/24983.jpg]	+	<br>{{Album|24983}}
	Regarding rod bearings, it says "Measure connecting rod bearing clearance in the same manner".		Regarding rod bearings, it says "Measure connecting rod bearing clearance in the same manner".
		+
		+	= Inspection =
		+	Scratched bearing indicates debris in the oil
		+	<br>{{PhotoPost|number4piston0054xm.jpg|114351}}
		+
		+	Lightly scratched, but still in spec
		+	<br>{{PhotoPost|kpd3.jpg|445664}}
		+
		+	Main bearings look OK, so measure clearance to be sure
		+	<br>{{PhotoPost|mq9y.jpg|445664}}
		+
		+	Bad conrod bearing next to good one - Troubleshoot Bearing Problem
		+	<br>{{PhotoPost|iphonephotos041.jpg|387048}}
		+
		+	Problem: Bearing shows abnormal wear in center
		+	<br>{{PhotoPost|hfg5.jpg|445664}}
		+
		+	= Camshaft Bushes =
		+	Datsun recommends not replacing the bushings during a normal rebuild. Of course if they are damaged, they should be replaced. A hone is required after fitting new bushes. Certain kinds of 'hot tank' block cleaners also require the removal of the bearings.
		+
		+	[http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/nissan,1980,210,1.5l+l4,1208832,engine,camshaft+bearing,5208 Rockauto]
		+	* ITM ENGINE COMPONENTS 5C4146STD
		+	* SEALED POWER 1592M Camshaft Bearing Set STD
		+	{{UploadPost|174_58aa5bbc41aa4.jpg|484020}}
		+
		+	{{UploadPost|174_58aa995e0783a.jpg|484022}} {{UploadPost|20677_58a51a0e15984.jpg|483957}}
		+
		+	Damaged
		+	<br>{{UploadPost|20677_5899de090d078.jpg|483794}}
	= Connecting Rod Bearings =		= Connecting Rod Bearings =
	A12/A13/A14/A15		A12/A13/A14/A15
-	12111-20910 BEARING-CONNECTING ROD STD <> 12111-20900	+	12111-20900 BEARING-CONNECTING ROD STD <> 12111-20900
-	12111-20900 BEARING-CONNECTING ROD STD	+
	12111-20901 BUSHING-CONNECTING ROD UNDERSIZE 8		12111-20901 BUSHING-CONNECTING ROD UNDERSIZE 8
	12111-20902 BUSHING-CONNECTING ROD UNDERSIZE 12		12111-20902 BUSHING-CONNECTING ROD UNDERSIZE 12
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	12111-20905 BUSHING-CONNECTING ROD UNDERSIZE 75 (0.75 mm undersize)		12111-20905 BUSHING-CONNECTING ROD UNDERSIZE 75 (0.75 mm undersize)
	12111-20906 BUSHING-CONNECTING ROD UNDERSIZE 100		12111-20906 BUSHING-CONNECTING ROD UNDERSIZE 100
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		+	B10
		+	12111-18000 BUSHING-connecting rod (standard size) F500 (8) except coupe
		+	12111-20900 BUSHING-connecting rod (standard size) F770 (8) coupe
		+
		+	F-770 is comprised of
		+	(1) a topmost layer of babbitt
		+	a nickel barrier layer
		+	(2) a copper-lead matrix base layer (F77/F770}
		+	(3) a steel backing layer
		+
		+	F-770 is tri-metal bearing. The lead-copper alloy has a higher load capacity than plain aluminum bearings and higher than alloy-tin (F820 or F500) bearings with better performance at extreme temperatures. First used by A12 ([[A-series_Engine_Changes#1970|A10 did not have them]]).
		+
		+	Clevite 77
		+	Vanderwall VP-R
		+
		+	F77 and F770 are identical except for the method of applying the copper lead to the steel: F77 is cast while F770 is sintered.
	<blockquote>[[1984_Nissan_Competition_Catalog#1200_Parts|1984 Nissan Competition Catalog]] said: The -25720 ... bearing shell produces the most desirable bearing clearance for racing purposes when applied to a standard size crankshaft. The other shells exist in order to obtain proper clearance when compensating for the variations in the crankshaft or connecting rod journals.		<blockquote>[[1984_Nissan_Competition_Catalog#1200_Parts|1984 Nissan Competition Catalog]] said: The -25720 ... bearing shell produces the most desirable bearing clearance for racing purposes when applied to a standard size crankshaft. The other shells exist in order to obtain proper clearance when compensating for the variations in the crankshaft or connecting rod journals.
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	= Main Bearings =		= Main Bearings =
-	Crankshaft bearings	+	Crankshaft bearings - thrust bearing has no hole is lower half -- for improved load bearing capacity. The other bearings use identical top & bottom halfs.
		+	<br>{{UploadPost|174_5ad127e101967.jpg|488079}}
	BEARING SET A12/A13/A14/A15		BEARING SET A12/A13/A14/A15
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	<br> * 12247-H2311 .0718"		<br> * 12247-H2311 .0718"
	<br> * 12247-H2312 .0715"</blockquote>		<br> * 12247-H2312 .0715"</blockquote>
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		+	12231-H1000 - inner main bearings (#2 & #4)
		+	<br>{{Photo|12231-H1000.jpg}}
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		+	12233-H1000 - outer main bearings (#1 & #5)
		+	<br>{{Photo|12223-H1000.jpg}}
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		+	12255-H1000 - center thrust bearing
		+	<br>{{Photo|12255-H1000.jpg}}
	= Thrust Bearing =		= Thrust Bearing =
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	Garage Nakamura halo cradle		Garage Nakamura halo cradle
-	<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26234 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/26234.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26233 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/26233.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26232 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/26232.jpg]	+	<br>{{Album|26234}} {{Album|26233}} {{Album|26232}}
	= Specs =		= Specs =
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	* measure multiple spots		* measure multiple spots
	* less than 0.03 mm		* less than 0.03 mm
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		+	End-play
		+	* crank thrust: 0.05 to 0.15 mm
		+
		+	Bearing Crush
		+	* main: 0 to 0.03 mm
		+	* rod: 0.015 to 0.040 mm
		+
		+	= Part Numbers =
		+	Tri-metal was used as original equipment. Very very durable bearings.
		+
		+	[http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1208483,pgname,Engine RockAuto.com]
		+
		+	ROD BEARING
		+	Nissan 12111-20900 BEARING-CONNECTING ROD STD (8 required)
		+	Mahle/Clevite CB980P (pair) P-series (Tri-Metal)
		+	Mahle/Clevite CB980A4 (set) A-series (Aluminum)
		+	Sealed Power 467320CP
		+
		+	MAIN BEARING
		+	Nissan 12207-M7201 set STD
		+	Sealed Power 7135M
	= Wheel Bearings =		= Wheel Bearings =
-	See main article: [[Wheel bearings]]	+	{{Main|Wheel bearings}}
		+	{{Main|Axle Shaft}}
-	[[Category:Engine Mechanical]]	+	[[Category:Engine Mechanical]]{{End}}

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If you get new bearings, keep in mind that inexpensive bearings do wear over time. Datsun used triple alloy bearings which do not wear out, but only if the engine loses oil pressure they will be damaged, or if debris gets into the oil.

Contents 1 Bearing Knock 2 Measuring Bearing Clearance 3 Inspection 4 Camshaft Bushes 5 Connecting Rod Bearings 6 Main Bearings 7 Thrust Bearing 8 Main Bearing Cradle 9 Specs 10 Part Numbers 11 Wheel Bearings

Bearing Knock

If your engine is knocking, you may need new bearings:

• Rod knock: repetitive double-tapping sound that increases with RPM. May become quiet when delecelerating. Do not confuse it with a cracked exhaust manifold (use a hose to your ear to narrow down the location of the sound)
• Main bearing knock: A dull, heavy knock

Rule these out first:

• Cracked exhaust manifold cause a tapping sound very much like rod bearing knock
• Engine mount knock -- inspect the mounts
• Exhaust pipe knocking against chassis -- inpect system especially whiling tipping the throttle

Measuring Bearing Clearance

When installing new bearings, Measure Bearing Crush.
Album 24984

It is difficult to tell by visual inspection if bearings are worn. It is normal to have some pattern on them.

Direct measurement: The best way to check is to use plastic thread. Buy the Plastigaugeᵂ (just a couple of dollars) and put it back together. The amount the thread is squished tells how much actual clearance it has.

Indirect measurement: Measure the journals with a precision micrometer, then calculate the clearance.

It is suggested to measure clearance after fitting/refitting bearing shells to confirm actual clearance.

Datsun Factory Service Manual uses Plastiguage:
Album 24982

Measuring Main Bearing Clearance
Album 24983

Regarding rod bearings, it says "Measure connecting rod bearing clearance in the same manner".

Inspection

Scratched bearing indicates debris in the oil
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Lightly scratched, but still in spec
Post click for topic

Main bearings look OK, so measure clearance to be sure
Post click for topic

Bad conrod bearing next to good one - Troubleshoot Bearing Problem
Post click for topic

Problem: Bearing shows abnormal wear in center
Post click for topic

Camshaft Bushes

Datsun recommends not replacing the bushings during a normal rebuild. Of course if they are damaged, they should be replaced. A hone is required after fitting new bushes. Certain kinds of 'hot tank' block cleaners also require the removal of the bearings.

Rockauto
* ITM ENGINE COMPONENTS 5C4146STD
* SEALED POWER 1592M Camshaft Bearing Set STD
Post 484020

Post 484022 Post 483957

Damaged
Post 483794

Connecting Rod Bearings

A12/A13/A14/A15
12111-20900 BEARING-CONNECTING ROD STD <> 12111-20900
12111-20901 BUSHING-CONNECTING ROD UNDERSIZE 8
12111-20902 BUSHING-CONNECTING ROD UNDERSIZE 12
12111-20903 BUSHING-CONNECTING ROD UNDERSIZE 25 (0.25 mm undersize)
12111-20904 BUSHING-CONNECTING ROD UNDERSIZE 50 (0.50 mm undersize)
12111-20905 BUSHING-CONNECTING ROD UNDERSIZE 75 (0.75 mm undersize)
12111-20906 BUSHING-CONNECTING ROD UNDERSIZE 100

B10
12111-18000 BUSHING-connecting rod (standard size) F500 (8) except coupe
12111-20900 BUSHING-connecting rod (standard size) F770 (8) coupe

F-770 is comprised of
(1) a topmost layer of babbitt 
    a nickel barrier layer 
(2) a copper-lead matrix base layer (F77/F770}
(3) a steel backing layer

F-770 is tri-metal bearing. The lead-copper alloy has a higher load capacity than plain aluminum bearings and higher than alloy-tin (F820 or F500) bearings with better performance at extreme temperatures. First used by A12 (A10 did not have them).

Clevite 77
Vanderwall VP-R

F77 and F770 are identical except for the method of applying the copper lead to the steel: F77 is cast while F770 is sintered.

1984 Nissan Competition Catalog said: The -25720 ... bearing shell produces the most desirable bearing clearance for racing purposes when applied to a standard size crankshaft. The other shells exist in order to obtain proper clearance when compensating for the variations in the crankshaft or connecting rod journals.

8 each required:
* 12111-25720 .0590"
* 12111-25721 .0588"
* 12111-25722 .0585"
* 12111-25723 .0592"
* 12111-25724 .0583"

Main Bearings

Crankshaft bearings - thrust bearing has no hole is lower half -- for improved load bearing capacity. The other bearings use identical top & bottom halfs.
Post 488079

BEARING SET A12/A13/A14/A15
* 12207-H1001 SET-BEARING STD <> 12207-M7201 <> 12207-H1000 $71.58 
* 12208-H1000 SET-BEARING 0.20MM
* 12209-H1000 SET-BEARING 0.25MM
* 12210-H1000 SET-BEARING 0.50MM
* 12211-H1000 SET-BEARING 0.75MM
* 12212-H1000 SET-BEARING 1.00MM

1984 Nissan Competition Catalog said: The ... -H2310 bearing shell produces the most desirable bearing clearance for racing purposes when applied to a standard size crankshaft. The other shells exist in order to obtain proper clearance when compensating for the variations in the crankshaft or connecting rod journals.

MAIN BEARING (#1/#5, SHELL THICKNESS) 4 each required
* 12215-H2310 .0720"
* 12215-H2311 .0718"
* 12215-H2312 .0715"

MAIN BEARING (#2/#4, SHELL THICKNESS) 4 each required
* 12231-H2310 .0720"
* 12231-H2311 .0718"
* 12231-12312 .0715"

MAIN BEARING (CENTER, SHELL THICKNESS) 2 required
* 12247-H2310 .0720"
* 12247-H2311 .0718"
* 12247-H2312 .0715"

12231-H1000 - inner main bearings (#2 & #4)

12233-H1000 - outer main bearings (#1 & #5)

12255-H1000 - center thrust bearing

Thrust Bearing

See: Thrust Clearance

Main Bearing Cradle

Although probably unnecessary, you can fabricate a main bearing cap girdle (ladder frame support) such as many modern engines have. The theory is that it stiffens the block for high HP applications. Also called a main cap girdle.

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Specs

Bearing Clearance
* Main: 0.020 to 0.062 mm
* Rod: 0.020 to 0.050 mm

Main Bearing Journal diameter
* 49.951 to 49.964 mm

Crankpin Journal diameter
* 44.974 to 44.961 mm

Journal Taper and out of round 
* measure multiple spots
* less than 0.03 mm

End-play
* crank thrust: 0.05 to 0.15 mm

Bearing Crush
* main: 0 to 0.03 mm
* rod: 0.015 to 0.040 mm

Part Numbers

Tri-metal was used as original equipment. Very very durable bearings.

RockAuto.com

ROD BEARING
Nissan 12111-20900 BEARING-CONNECTING ROD STD (8 required)
Mahle/Clevite CB980P (pair) P-series (Tri-Metal)
Mahle/Clevite CB980A4 (set) A-series (Aluminum)
Sealed Power 467320CP

MAIN BEARING
Nissan 12207-M7201 set STD
Sealed Power 7135M

Wheel Bearings

 

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