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	Mid-model utes and later Sunny Truck came with intermittent wipers. Intermittent wipers were an option for the 1200 starting in 1978 April. Then became standard fitment starting October 1981. They are just like the regular switch with two positions Slow and High, but with another position which is intermittent every six seconds. So instead of OFF plus two stops, it has OFF plus three stops. It uses the same wiper motor as all 1200s, so the wiring harness does not need to be modified. The only downside is they are not variable intermittent.		Mid-model utes and later Sunny Truck came with intermittent wipers. Intermittent wipers were an option for the 1200 starting in 1978 April. Then became standard fitment starting October 1981. They are just like the regular switch with two positions Slow and High, but with another position which is intermittent every six seconds. So instead of OFF plus two stops, it has OFF plus three stops. It uses the same wiper motor as all 1200s, so the wiring harness does not need to be modified. The only downside is they are not variable intermittent.
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	= 1978-up B120 =		= 1978-up B120 =
	This is a direct bolt-in for earlier 1200s, except for needing to wire up one connector. You would need the amplifier and wiper switch, and sub harness.		This is a direct bolt-in for earlier 1200s, except for needing to wire up one connector. You would need the amplifier and wiper switch, and sub harness.
-	[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=22431 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/22431.jpg]	+	1992 six-pin wiper switch | with Amplifier
		+	<br>{{Album|22431}} {{UploadPost|13822_54ba13f83dbf3.jpg|462894}}
	# Remove the regular wiper switch		# Remove the regular wiper switch
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	# Connect EARTH wire to an available Earth point		# Connect EARTH wire to an available Earth point
-		+	intermittent AMP (1992 version)
-	intermittent AMP	+	<br>{{Album|22442}}
-	<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=22442 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/22442.jpg]	+
	== Switch Identification ==		== Switch Identification ==
	* 1970-1978 wiper switch: square 6-connector with blue wires		* 1970-1978 wiper switch: square 6-connector with blue wires
	* 1979-up Wiper Switch: rectangular 6-connector		* 1979-up Wiper Switch: rectangular 6-connector
-	[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=22432 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/22432.jpg]	+	{{Album|22432}}
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	The newer Wiper Switch looks much like a headlight switch, but has one blue wire		The newer Wiper Switch looks much like a headlight switch, but has one blue wire
-	<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=22433 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/22433.jpg]	+	<br>{{Album|22433}}
	== Wiring A ==		== Wiring A ==
	Where the SUB HARNESS cannot be obtained from a donor 1200, you can make one like this.		Where the SUB HARNESS cannot be obtained from a donor 1200, you can make one like this.
-	[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=22440 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/22440.jpg]	+	{{Album|22440}}
	<br>Use connectors from an old Datsun wiring harness (non-1200 donor) -- so that in your 1200, there is no cutting of the harness at all to fit the intermittent switch and AMP.		<br>Use connectors from an old Datsun wiring harness (non-1200 donor) -- so that in your 1200, there is no cutting of the harness at all to fit the intermittent switch and AMP.
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	Then modify it as follows:		Then modify it as follows:
	# the Park wire is cut and both ends sent down to (to the AMP)		# the Park wire is cut and both ends sent down to (to the AMP)
	# the new Intermittent wire (the sixth wire) is added. It goes down to the AMP too		# the new Intermittent wire (the sixth wire) is added. It goes down to the AMP too
-	[http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/174_4c8c52abd9147.jpg http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/174_4c8c52abd9147.jpg]	+	{{UploadPost|174_4c8c52abd9147.jpg|336290}} {{Album|22439}}
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-	[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=22439 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/22439.jpg]	+
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	Mount the AMP (black box) somewhere appropriate. I fitted it to the pedal box, with the same screw that fastens the Flasher. I chose to earth it right there (black wire).		Mount the AMP (black box) somewhere appropriate. I fitted it to the pedal box, with the same screw that fastens the Flasher. I chose to earth it right there (black wire).
-	<br>[http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/thumbs/174_4c8c542908bdc.jpg http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/thumbs/174_4c8c542908bdc.jpg]	+	<br>{{UploadPost|174_4c8c542908bdc.jpg|336291}}
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	== Wiring B ==		== Wiring B ==
	Diagram from 1978 Australia B120 Factory Service Manual. However this is for a two-connector switch. The diagram might be for the early JDM switch.		Diagram from 1978 Australia B120 Factory Service Manual. However this is for a two-connector switch. The diagram might be for the early JDM switch.
-	<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=22249 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/22249.jpg]	+	<br>{{Album|22249}}
	Does this work???		Does this work???
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	## Connect Black wire to an available earth		## Connect Black wire to an available earth
	## Connect Yellow wire to the original stock SWITCH connector Y wire		## Connect Yellow wire to the original stock SWITCH connector Y wire
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	== Parts ==		== Parts ==
-	* 25260-G1060 SWITCH ASSY-WIPER F/INTMT WIPER	+	* 25260-G1060 SWITCH ASSY-WIPER F/INTMT WIPER
-	*: 7804-8109 OPTION	+	7804-8109 OPTION
-	*: 8110- STANDARD EQUIPMENT	+	8110- STANDARD EQUIPMENT
-	** 28890-B8060 AMP-INTERMITTENT WIPER 7804-	+	* 28890-B8060 AMP-INTERMITTENT WIPER 7804-
-	** 28890-B8060 USA 620 AMP UNIT-INTERMITENT WIPER DX 0778-	+	* 28890-B8060 USA 620 AMP UNIT-INTERMITENT WIPER DX 0778-
-	**: [http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/174_4c85e197702ef.jpg http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=140&uri=http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/174_4c85e197702ef.jpg] AMP on passenger kick panel, USA Datsun 620	+	replaced 28820-R4710 JDM 620 AMP-INTERMITENT WIPER -7708
-	*** replaced 28820-R4710 JDM 620 AMP-INTERMITENT WIPER -7708	+	* 08513-30812 SCREW
-	*** 08513-30812 SCREW	+
-	** WIPER SUB HARNESS	+	The AMP has a paper label
-	** 24018-B9300 USA 620 HARNESS-WIPER DX 0778-	+
		+	AMP W/S WIPER
		+	28890 B8060
		+	ET220-1 12V
		+	010 JIDECO 010
		+	01024S
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		+	AMP on passenger kick panel, USA Datsun 620
		+	<br>{{UploadPost|174_4c85e197702ef.jpg|336291}}
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		+	== 620 ==
		+	* WIPER SUB HARNESS
		+	* 24018-B9300 USA 620 HARNESS-WIPER DX 0778-
	* 25260-B5005 JDM 620 SWITCH ASSY-WIPER W/INTERMITTENT		* 25260-B5005 JDM 620 SWITCH ASSY-WIPER W/INTERMITTENT
	* 25260-B9300 USA 620 COMP-SWITCH,WIPER (INTERMITENT DX 0778- $35.80 USD		* 25260-B9300 USA 620 COMP-SWITCH,WIPER (INTERMITENT DX 0778- $35.80 USD
		+	** Uses 6-pin locking connector instead of 6-pin rectangular
	** Possibly may fit 1200 dash?		** Possibly may fit 1200 dash?
		+	{{Album|23373}} {{Album|23374}}
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		+	620 Wiper Switch
		+	NILES JAPAN TYPED-912Y01
		+	/123\ /HEL\
		+	_4L6_ _RIW_
		+	OFF: 34
		+	INT: 34,2L
		+	LOW: 23
		+	HIG: 21
		+	WAS: 26
	= Others =		= Others =
		+	== B210 ==
		+	[[Sunny_Genuine_Option_Parts#Intermittent_Wipers|Option for 1973 B210]]
		+
		+	Intermittent operation type that wipes the window once every 6 seconds. It shows its absolute power during light rain.
-	== Other Datsuns ==	+	== B310 ==
	Some B310s had intermittent wipers. The B310 motor is wired the same. The amplifier box is similar but has a sixth terminal for fast-intermittent. But you could use it for the 1200 (using either slow-intermittent or fast-intermittent).		Some B310s had intermittent wipers. The B310 motor is wired the same. The amplifier box is similar but has a sixth terminal for fast-intermittent. But you could use it for the 1200 (using either slow-intermittent or fast-intermittent).
-	* 710 JDM 25260-N7400 SWITCH INT.	+	710 JDM 25260-N7400 SWITCH INT.
-	** 28890-N7400 AMP $102.68	+	* 28890-N7400 AMP $102.68
-	* 25260-N5820 S10 USA switch	+
-	** 28890-M7300, 28890-U7500	+
-	* S110 USA AMP more complicated + stalk	+
-	** 28510-N8305, 28510-N8405 AMP	+
-	* 24038-H8800 HARNESS-WIPER (INTERMITTEN 0880- B310	+	25260-N5820 S10 USA switch
-	* 24035-H9100 HARNESS-WIPER (INTERMITTEN -0780 B310	+	* 28890-M7300, 28890-U7500
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		+	S110 USA AMP more complicated + stalk
		+	* 28510-N8305, 28510-N8405 AMP
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		+	HARNESS
		+	24038-H8800 HARNESS-WIPER (INTERMITTEN 0880- B310
		+	24035-H9100 HARNESS-WIPER (INTERMITTEN -0780 B310
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		+	Six-blade amp (from S110?)
		+	<br>{{Photo|20100829%20190251%20DSC00747.jpg|Datsun%201200/wiki}}
	== Aftermarket ==		== Aftermarket ==
-	Hella Australia make a universal intermittant wiper switch. Unlike the 1200 intermittent option, it doesn't have set speeds you just turn the dial and the speed changes (variable-speed intermittent).	+	Hella Australia make a universal intermittent wiper switch. Unlike the 1200 intermittent option, it doesn't have set speeds you just turn the dial and the speed changes (variable-speed intermittent).
	[http://db.hella.com.au/cgi-bin/catalogue.pl?flcmd=preview&flmaint=365 Hella 7010 Windscreen Wiper Control Switch - Intermittent, 12V DC]		[http://db.hella.com.au/cgi-bin/catalogue.pl?flcmd=preview&flmaint=365 Hella 7010 Windscreen Wiper Control Switch - Intermittent, 12V DC]
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	= Discussions =		= Discussions =
-	See Main Forum: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=47402&forum=1&post_id=336292#forumpost336292 Who has intermittent wipers?]	+	See Main Forum: [{{Post|334967}} Who has intermittent wipers?]
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		+	= Using AMP with standard wiper switch =
		+	Does adding the AMP &mdash; and performing the wiring modification &mdash; work with a standard 1200 wiper switch? Yes, it gives an intermittency ... but
		+	* The wipers stop in a random spot on the glass, then continue after the delay
		+	* Since the standard switch only has Hi & Lo, one of them has to be sacrificed to make intermittent
		+	* they will park themselves when the switch is put to OFF
-	[[Category:Body Electrical System]]	+	[[Category:Body Electrical System]]{{End}}

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Current revision

Mid-model utes and later Sunny Truck came with intermittent wipers. Intermittent wipers were an option for the 1200 starting in 1978 April. Then became standard fitment starting October 1981. They are just like the regular switch with two positions Slow and High, but with another position which is intermittent every six seconds. So instead of OFF plus two stops, it has OFF plus three stops. It uses the same wiper motor as all 1200s, so the wiring harness does not need to be modified. The only downside is they are not variable intermittent.

Contents 1 1978-up B120 1.1 Switch Identification 1.2 Wiring A 1.3 Wiring B 1.4 Parts 1.5 620 2 Others 2.1 B210 2.2 B310 2.3 Aftermarket 3 Discussions 4 Using AMP with standard wiper switch

1978-up B120

This is a direct bolt-in for earlier 1200s, except for needing to wire up one connector. You would need the amplifier and wiper switch, and sub harness.

1992 six-pin wiper switch | with Amplifier
Album 22431 Post 462894

1. Remove the regular wiper switch
2. Connect the SUB HARNESS to the new wiper switch
3. Fit new switch to the dashboard
4. Connect one end of SUB HARNESS to the dash wiring
5. Connect last end SUB HARNESS harness to AMP
6. Screw the AMP to the steering post
7. Connect BAT wire to fuse box 'W' terminal
8. Connect EARTH wire to an available Earth point

intermittent AMP (1992 version)
Album 22442

Switch Identification

• 1970-1978 wiper switch: square 6-connector with blue wires
• 1979-up Wiper Switch: rectangular 6-connector

Album 22432

The newer Wiper Switch looks much like a headlight switch, but has one blue wire
Album 22433

Wiring A

Where the SUB HARNESS cannot be obtained from a donor 1200, you can make one like this.

Album 22440
Use connectors from an old Datsun wiring harness (non-1200 donor) -- so that in your 1200, there is no cutting of the harness at all to fit the intermittent switch and AMP.

Then modify it as follows:

1. the Park wire is cut and both ends sent down to (to the AMP)
2. the new Intermittent wire (the sixth wire) is added. It goes down to the AMP too

Post 336290 Album 22439

Mount the AMP (black box) somewhere appropriate. I fitted it to the pedal box, with the same screw that fastens the Flasher. I chose to earth it right there (black wire).
Post 336291

Wiring B

Diagram from 1978 Australia B120 Factory Service Manual. However this is for a two-connector switch. The diagram might be for the early JDM switch.
Album 22249

Does this work???

1. Remove the regular wiper switch
2. Install the new wiper switch and connect it to the stock harness
3. Screw the AMP to the steering post with its SUB HARNESS
4. Connect AMP harness to SWITCH
5. Create the new connector (in Red circle of wiring diagram) and plug it in
   1. Connect Blue/Red (LR) wire to fuse box 'W' terminal
   2. Connect Black wire to an available earth
   3. Connect Yellow wire to the original stock SWITCH connector Y wire

Parts

* 25260-G1060 SWITCH ASSY-WIPER F/INTMT WIPER 
  7804-8109 OPTION
  8110- STANDARD EQUIPMENT
* 28890-B8060 AMP-INTERMITTENT WIPER 7804-
* 28890-B8060 USA 620 AMP UNIT-INTERMITENT WIPER DX 0778-
  replaced 28820-R4710 JDM 620 AMP-INTERMITENT WIPER -7708
 * 08513-30812 SCREW

The AMP has a paper label

AMP W/S WIPER
28890 B8060
ET220-1 12V
010 JIDECO 010
01024S

AMP on passenger kick panel, USA Datsun 620
Post 336291

620

• WIPER SUB HARNESS
• 24018-B9300 USA 620 HARNESS-WIPER DX 0778-

• 25260-B5005 JDM 620 SWITCH ASSY-WIPER W/INTERMITTENT
• 25260-B9300 USA 620 COMP-SWITCH,WIPER (INTERMITENT DX 0778- $35.80 USD
  • Uses 6-pin locking connector instead of 6-pin rectangular
  • Possibly may fit 1200 dash?

Album 23373 Album 23374

620 Wiper Switch
NILES JAPAN TYPED-912Y01
/123\ /HEL\
_4L6_ _RIW_
OFF: 34
INT: 34,2L
LOW: 23
HIG: 21
WAS: 26

Others

B210

Option for 1973 B210

Intermittent operation type that wipes the window once every 6 seconds. It shows its absolute power during light rain.

B310

Some B310s had intermittent wipers. The B310 motor is wired the same. The amplifier box is similar but has a sixth terminal for fast-intermittent. But you could use it for the 1200 (using either slow-intermittent or fast-intermittent).

710 JDM 25260-N7400 SWITCH INT.
* 28890-N7400 AMP $102.68

25260-N5820 S10 USA switch 
* 28890-M7300, 28890-U7500

S110 USA AMP more complicated + stalk
* 28510-N8305, 28510-N8405 AMP

HARNESS
24038-H8800 HARNESS-WIPER (INTERMITTEN 0880- B310
24035-H9100 HARNESS-WIPER (INTERMITTEN -0780 B310

Six-blade amp (from S110?)

Aftermarket

Hella Australia make a universal intermittent wiper switch. Unlike the 1200 intermittent option, it doesn't have set speeds you just turn the dial and the speed changes (variable-speed intermittent).

Hella 7010 Windscreen Wiper Control Switch - Intermittent, 12V DC

Discussions

See Main Forum: ^POST Who has intermittent wipers?

Using AMP with standard wiper switch

Does adding the AMP — and performing the wiring modification — work with a standard 1200 wiper switch? Yes, it gives an intermittency ... but

• The wipers stop in a random spot on the glass, then continue after the delay
• Since the standard switch only has Hi & Lo, one of them has to be sacrificed to make intermittent
• they will park themselves when the switch is put to OFF 

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