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[Datsun 1200 encyclopedia]

Rear Disc Brakes

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910 Sedan (810/Maxima/Bluebird) use a conversion plate to bolt a rotor to drum-brake-spec hub. 910 Sedan (810/Maxima/Bluebird) use a conversion plate to bolt a rotor to drum-brake-spec hub.
-=== Narrow Pattern ===+==== Narrow Pattern ====
-Use the same install method as the Pitroad adapters (above). The Pitroad units appear to be 44155-N3202 machined for the H145 pattern.+
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44155-N3202 ADAPTER-CALIPER 44165 $72 USD 44155-N3202 ADAPTER-CALIPER 44165 $72 USD
* yoke type/double piston (wide bolt pattern) * yoke type/double piston (wide bolt pattern)
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44001-F5490 0780-0681 <2> 44001-W1390 44001-F5490 0780-0681 <2> 44001-W1390
240Z use: use early 280ZX caliper & rotor 240Z use: use early 280ZX caliper & rotor
- 1200 use: ?+ 1200 use: same as 240Z?
<img size=140>http://home.earthlink.net/~zcarfan/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/early_maxima_bracket.jpg</img> [http://home.earthlink.net/~zcarfan/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/early_maxima_bracket.jpg fullsize] <img size=140>http://home.earthlink.net/~zcarfan/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/early_maxima_bracket.jpg</img> [http://home.earthlink.net/~zcarfan/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/early_maxima_bracket.jpg fullsize]
==== Wide Pattern ==== ==== Wide Pattern ====
 +Use the same install method as the Pitroad adapters (above). The Pitroad units appear to be 44155-N3202 machined for the H145 pattern.
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44155-04S10 ADAPTER-CALIPER 44165 44155-04S10 ADAPTER-CALIPER 44165
* single piston type (narrow bolt pattern) * single piston type (narrow bolt pattern)
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240Z use: use late 280ZX caliper & rotor 240Z use: use late 280ZX caliper & rotor
[http://www.zcarcreations.com/images/Mbracket.jpg http://www.zcarcreations.com/images/Mbracket_small.jpg] [http://www.zcarcreations.com/images/Lside-caliper.jpg http://www.zcarcreations.com/images/Lside-caliper_small.jpg] [http://www.zcarcreations.com/images/Mbracket.jpg http://www.zcarcreations.com/images/Mbracket_small.jpg] [http://www.zcarcreations.com/images/Lside-caliper.jpg http://www.zcarcreations.com/images/Lside-caliper_small.jpg]
- 1200 use: ?+ 1200 use: 1982-1983 280ZX (Late ZX) caliper & Rotor
Compare various methods of use: [http://zhome.com/rnt/FordPower/BrakeUpdate.html Z Home] Compare various methods of use: [http://zhome.com/rnt/FordPower/BrakeUpdate.html Z Home]

Revision as of 22:42, 3 November 2012

The stock rear brakes are fairly good, a large (for such a light car) 8" x 1.75 brake shoe. Make sure the brakes and clean and adjusted correctly. Using a performance pad will improve it.

But for coolness sake... read on.

Contents

H145

Pitroad Kit

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Pitroad rear disc adapters for B110

  • Uses late model S130 (280ZX) caliper and rotor (I think it says it uses Skyline HR30 adapters)

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H145-3.jpg


Andy: The Pitroad rear disk brake kit only includes the brackets, E-brake cables, axle sleeve thingys, clips, rubber brake hoses, and axle bolts. You supply the calipers, pads, and rotors from an 82-83 280ZX, as well as new oil seals for the axles, wheel bearings, etc. It's pretty straight forward, you have to pull off the old drum brake assemblies and put on their new bracket just before you put the new wheel bearings in. You do have to drill two really small holes on the E brake cable holder, but other than that it's really easy.

In general, 1982 280ZX and 300ZX has a smaller rear caliper with larger pads than the early (1979-1981) 280ZX. The offset of the early vs. late caliper is quite different.

AE86

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H165

Sentra Rotor Adaption

16087.jpg 16450.jpg [1] 16448.jpg 16465.jpg 18050.jpg

Moar Piccies! See 3rotor's gallery

Factory Disc Adapters

Fits H165 and H190 rear axle assemblies, like the 1200 Ute axle assembly.

Disc Over Drum

You can do a conversion to a H165 ute diff with a TRX bluebird disc rear or R31 skyline/pintara disc rear setup.

Find an Aussie Bluebird with rear discs and just swap everything over. This uses the drum shoes as an emergency brake.

th_P1020071.jpg

"Disc Over Drum" -- easy conversion for H165 or H190 diffs!
2320.jpg 3294.jpg 16590.jpg 17285.jpg

910

910 Sedan (810/Maxima/Bluebird) use a conversion plate to bolt a rotor to drum-brake-spec hub.

Narrow Pattern

44155-N3202 ADAPTER-CALIPER 44165 $72 USD
* yoke type/double piston (wide bolt pattern)
* USA 910 1981 (0780-0681) sedan Datsun 810/Maxima IRS
* JPN F30 8009-8208 L28E Leopard/TR-X
          8009-8107 L20E#
Stock Use:
 44151 BAFFLE-PLATE
  44151-U7800 0780-0681
 44001 CALIPER ASSY-REAR RH,W/O PADS OR SHIMS [or yoke]
  44001-F5490 0780-0681 <2> 44001-W1390
240Z use: use early 280ZX caliper & rotor
1200 use: same as 240Z?
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Wide Pattern

Use the same install method as the Pitroad adapters (above). The Pitroad units appear to be 44155-N3202 machined for the H145 pattern.

44155-04S10 ADAPTER-CALIPER 44165
* single piston type (narrow bolt pattern)
* USA 910 1982-1984 (0781-) sedan 810/Maxima
* JPN C31 8111- GX#+K.L20.MD Laurel
* JPN F30 8108- L20E#
* JPN R30 8108-8108 L20ET Skyline
Stock Use:
 44151 BAFFLE-PLATE
  44151-04S10 0781-0683 <> 44151-04S70
  44151-04S60 0783- 
  44151-04S70
44001 CALIPER ASSY-REAR RH,W/O PADS OR SHIMS 
  44001-04S90 0781- <2> D4001-04S90
 fullsize
240Z use: use late 280ZX caliper & rotor
 Mbracket_small.jpg Lside-caliper_small.jpg
1200 use: 1982-1983 280ZX (Late ZX) caliper & Rotor

Compare various methods of use: Z Home

1985-88 Maxima (Bluebird) FWD bracket, the ID of the opening is different, and the offset is different. Machining needed, see HybridZ
th_unmodifiedbracketflat.jpg

Rear Axle Swaps

See Rear Axle Swaps

These include rear disc brakes:

  • Complete rear end off a Toyoda with disk brakes (Corolla AE86)
  • Complete rear end from a Mazda RX7 GSL-SE
  • Complete rear end from a 1980 to 1981 S110 (Silvia, 200SX) H165
  • Complete rear end from a 1982 to 1983 S110 H190

200SX either narrow the housing or use fender flares.

Toyoda...cheaper LSD from TRD.

Mad Dat Kit

Mad Dat sells a narrowed Nissan rear axle assembly with disc brakes. Shortened R31 28 spline unit (looks like an R31 C200A unit).